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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do you solve this equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{x-98}+2=1\] I know the answer is extraneous, but I'm not sure how to get that. Thanks so much!

OpenStudy (alekos):

we start by moving the 2 over to the RHS sqrt(x-98) = -1 what do you think is next?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think you square both sides?

OpenStudy (alekos):

yes and what would you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think\[\left( \sqrt{x-98} \right)^{2} = (-1)^{2}\]

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Or, after simplifying, ... what...?

OpenStudy (alekos):

from here we get x - 98 = 1 then solve for x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh yeah, that's what I got, too... Lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Uhm, how do you solve for x now?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

We want x isolated (alone) on the left side of the equation. So, think of what to do with that -98.

OpenStudy (alekos):

just add 98 to both sides

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You add 98 to both sides.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So x = 1 + 98?

OpenStudy (alekos):

yes therefore x = 99

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Now that you've gotten this tentative solution, why not substitute it back into the original equation as a check?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay! Thanks a lot! I don't know who to give a medal to now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, give me a sec

OpenStudy (alekos):

to check put x=99 into your original equation

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Caution: Unless the original equation is true with x = 99 substituted, either there is no solution or we've erred along the way.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, there is no solution

OpenStudy (mathmale):

This sort of result (no solution) is entirely possible.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey I have one question about this: The first step where you move 2 over and get -1, is it -1 because +2 - 1 = -1?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

A better reason would be that "we need to isolate the square root on the left side of the equation that involves the unknown, x."

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Moving the 2 to the right hand side of the equation, by subtracting 2 from each side, accomplishes this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, I've got it. Thanks again!

OpenStudy (mathmale):

My great pleasure. Good going.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mathmale Hey can you tell me if I did this right? I have to show my work and it looks wrong. sqrt x - 98 +2 = 1 sqrt x - 98 = -1 x - 98 = 1 x = 1 + 98 x = 99 sqrt 99 - 98 + 2 = 1 sqrt 99 - 98 = -1 99 - 98 = 1 99 = 1 + 98 99 = 99

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Hey, HHS, It's it's very important that you enclose that x - 98 in parentheses: sqrt(x-98). If you'll work through the problem again, you'll most likely end up where we did before: "no solution." Let me know if you have further questions.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry, I'm not totally sure what you mean.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Sqrt(x-98) + 2 = 1 Sqrt(x-98) = -1 Square both sides. x-98 = 1 x = 99. Check: Sqrt(99-98) + 2 = ?? = 1 Sqrt(99-98) = ?? = -1 Sqrt(1) = ?? = -1 Sqrt(1) is generally taken to be +1. Sqrt(1) = 1 is not equal to -1. Similarly, Sqrt(1) + 2 is not equal to 1. Perhaps someone else could shed more light on the conclusion or conclusions we could arrive at.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Upon further thought: If we start out with Sqrt(x-98) + 2 = 1, there is NO x value that would result in Sqrt(x-98) taking on a negative value. I believe Sqrt(x-98) should be and is taken as the POSITIVE square root of (x-98) (called "the principal root"). Conclusion: no solution to the given problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright that makes sense. For your check, I don't really get why the question marks are there, and what could I put there? Because I don't think my teacher would be okay with question marks lol. Thanks again.

OpenStudy (alekos):

The answer i gave originally is correct x=99 !! because, if we substitute x=99 in sqrt(x-98) we get sqrt(99 - 98) = sqrt1 Now the square root of 1 has two possible results +1 and -1 so in this case we just choose -1 and the LHS = -1 + 2 = 1 which is equal to the RHS. a mathematically valid result so x = 99 is the solution !!

OpenStudy (mathmale):

While you (alekos) are correct in stating that the Sqrt of 1 could be either (-) or (+), my stand is that substituting x=99 into the original equation must result in a mathematical statement that is true as is (without further manipulation) for x=99 to be a solution. If we take the principal (+) square root of 1, the resulting equation, 1 + 2 = 1, is false.

OpenStudy (alekos):

I disagree

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Great to live in a country where people can disagree openly and safely. Many thanks for sharing your views on this particular math question.

OpenStudy (alekos):

I agree with that :) always good to see the other man's point of view.

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