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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the general formula for the derivative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f^{n}(a)\text{ denotes the dervitive at a for the nth derivative} \\find \\f^{27}(1) \text{for} \ f(x) = (1+x^2)^{15}\]

hartnn (hartnn):

yes 15*14*13*..... (2x)^n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what happens when your past 15..

hartnn (hartnn):

wait, isn't there a product rule for 2nd derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea the 2

hartnn (hartnn):

now its even more difficult to generalize...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

forgot the exponent 13 on that first part

hartnn (hartnn):

i don't see a standard or easy way to do this... http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=27th+derivative+of+%281%2Bx%5E2%29%5E15

OpenStudy (anonymous):

waw are you serious.. this was on my exam..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the answers were like 150(28!), 160(28!), (300)(27!)

hartnn (hartnn):

maybe there's a trick somewhere....lets call for help @jim_thompson5910 @ganeshie8 @phi @eliassaab

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f^2 15*14(1+x^{2})^{13}(2x)^{2} + (15)(2)(2x)(1+x^2)^{14} \] I think this is more accurate

OpenStudy (phi):

I think I would use the binomial theorem to expand (1+x^2)^15 term by term all the terms with x^n , n<27 will go to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm ...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why do my profs want to own me on exams *teary eyes*

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ (x^2+1)^{15}= \left(\begin{matrix}15 \\ 0\end{matrix}\right)\left( x^2 \right)^{15}1^0+ \left(\begin{matrix}15 \\ 1\end{matrix}\right)\left( x^2 \right)^{14}1^1+ \left(\begin{matrix}15 \\ 2\end{matrix}\right)\left( x^2 \right)^{13}1^2+... \] \[ x^{30} + 15x^{28} + 105x^{26} + ... \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well this is definitely new..

OpenStudy (phi):

If I got the correct pattern for the 27th derivative of x^n \[ (n (n-1) ... (n-26)) x^{n-27} \] and \[ \frac{d^{27}}{dx}x^{30} = (30 \cdot 29\cdot 28... (30-26) )x^{30-27} \\ =(30 \cdot 29\cdot 28... 5\cdot 4) x^3 \\ = \frac{30!}{3!}= \frac{30\cdot 29}{6} \cdot 28!= 145 \cdot 28! \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks a lot ... now ill just try and figure out what you did..

OpenStudy (phi):

27th derivative of 15 x^28 is 15 * 28! * x^1 --> 15 * 28! added together (145+15) * 28! or 160 * 28!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ofmg !!! I got it right!ahhhhhhhhh

OpenStudy (phi):

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_theorem#Statement_of_the_theorem for the binomial theorem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YESSS

OpenStudy (anonymous):

!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now I have to learn how to do this as well

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