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OpenStudy (osanseviero):
z=x+iy
\[\left| x \right|+\left| y \right|\le \sqrt{2}\left| z \right|\]
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
I've can't find how to do this
hartnn (hartnn):
the |...| sign on both sides means magnitude, right ?
so,
|z| = \(\sqrt{x^2+y^2}\)
and |x| = x, |y| = y because they are real numbers
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
yep
hartnn (hartnn):
so we just need
x+y < = sqrt 2 sqrt (x^2+y^2)
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hartnn (hartnn):
that is
\(\sqrt {x^2+y^2} \le \sqrt {2x^2+2y^2}\)
or
we need to prove
x^2+y^2 <= 2x^2 +2y^2
hartnn (hartnn):
got this ?
hartnn (hartnn):
no, wait
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
I think I got it
hartnn (hartnn):
\(\sqrt {x^2+2xy + y^2} \le \sqrt {2x^2+2y^2}\)
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hartnn (hartnn):
that ^
hartnn (hartnn):
which is easy to prove.....
you got it this way only ?
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
Well...with drawings
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
Why is the left side that?
hartnn (hartnn):
the |x| + |y|
???
magnitude of real numbers is itself...
|x| = x , |y| = y
x+y = \(\sqrt {(x+y)^2}\)
....
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OpenStudy (osanseviero):
oh right
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
One last question...how can I find a solution to this?
\[\left( z+1 \right)^{2}=3+4i\]
hartnn (hartnn):
expand left side
first take
z = x+ iy
so,
[(x+1) + iy]^2
expand this
then compare the real and imaginary parts
hartnn (hartnn):
you get something like
(x+1)^2+ y^2 = 3
2(x+1)y = 4
hartnn (hartnn):
2 equations 2 unknowns, see if you can solve it.....doesn't seem easy
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OpenStudy (osanseviero):
negative :)
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
-y^2 in first one, right?
hartnn (hartnn):
ya, right, -y^2
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
okk...let's try the system
hartnn (hartnn):
y =2/ (x+1)
put this in 1st equation...
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OpenStudy (osanseviero):
I got x3+3x2=4...is it correct until there?
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
Nope, just found a mistake
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
:/
hartnn (hartnn):
that was because i used +y^2 again :P
anyways,
i get integer solutions now
one solution we can easily guess by trying x=1
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
How did you get that?
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hartnn (hartnn):
i'll tell u,
just tell me what equation u got in x ?
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
What I did was x2(x+1)+2x(z+1)-2=2x+2
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
and then tried to solve for that
hartnn (hartnn):
how u got that equation ?
hartnn (hartnn):
maybe go step by step from starting....so that i can identify whether u made any error or not..
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OpenStudy (osanseviero):
I got that (x+1)^2-y2=3
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
I plug in y=2/(x+1)
hartnn (hartnn):
oh, so u didn't square y ...
hartnn (hartnn):
y^2 = 4/ (x+1)^2
plug this in
hartnn (hartnn):
(x+1)^2 + 4/ (x+1)^2 = 3
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hartnn (hartnn):
maybe to simplify things, you can assume (x+1)^2 = a
first and get a quadratic in a
hartnn (hartnn):
a+4/a =3
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
why did you plug in that?
hartnn (hartnn):
why did i plug in a ?
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
It is 2(x+1)y=4 at the start?
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hartnn (hartnn):
yeah, so ?
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
oh...I think I get it now
hartnn (hartnn):
good, try to solve further
i took 'a' bcoz,
if i would have worked with x , i would have got x^4 +... = 0
which is not easy to solve
so i took (x+1)^2 =a
find a, then resubstitute it by (x+1)^2
then find x
OpenStudy (osanseviero):
ok, I will do it :) thanks
hartnn (hartnn):
tag me if you get stuck
or if u want to verify your final answer...
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