why does weaker bonds mean a higher melting point?
Do you mean intermolecular bonds? Use common sense what does a higher melting point entail?
intermolecular bonds
Yeah that is what I though bleh smeh, well do you have any guess at all?
they are harder to break? they aren't weak?
Remember, Cold ----------> Hot Solid -> Liquid -> Gas So we are going from, Solid -> liquid So we are increasing temperature at which the intermolecular bonds become farther apart in space and have a weaker interaction.
Distance between molecules Solid < Liquid < Gas
Can you answer this question now?
Just think about what is a solid, liquid and what is a gas at normal temperatures then think about their interactions
So, Helium is a gas does it have strong or weak interactions? Water is a liquid does it have strong or weak interactions? Kevlar is a solid does it have strong or weak interactions? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevlar
distance btwn solid, liquid, gas is solid is close together, liquid is apart and gas is far apart
that is right but think about what the question is saying
or rather define a weak bond.
because of the temperature that is increasing?
Define a weak bond, what is a weak bond?
Answer that first.
If you are lost just tell me.
easy to break compared to other bonds
So the amount of energy you need to put into them in order to break them is very little relative to other bonds! Now read you question.
What does a high melting point entail?
i dont like getting the answers tbh, explaining would be better . A high melting point is is when a solid turns into a liquid, its the same as freezing point
What do you have to do to melt something?
Im trying to guide you to the answer
it needs to be at a high temperature,
Stronger bonds require more energy to be input and be broken.
Well yes you need to increase the temperature of the substance to change it from a solid to a liquid. So do substances with weaker bonds really have higher melting points?
When you think about intermolecular bonds think about them in terms of energy.
It really depends on the compound you're referring to. Some compounds have different intermolecular forces.
not always?
abb0t, the types of intermolecular forces are irrelevant to this question. Christine314 THINK CRITICALLY!
Strong intermolecualer bonds -> Need lots of energy to be broken Weak Intermolecular bonds -> Need not very much energy to be broken (Remember this is relative to the substance and isnt exactly correct) Solids -> Have intermolecular bonds that are relatively stable and hardly ever break Liquids -> Have intermolecular bonds that are forming and breaking all the time Gas -> rarely form intermolecular interactions (Remember this is relative to the substance and isn't exactly correct)
That is true but that has to do with intermolecular forces more than chemical bonding, that is more of a generalization as well.
You are getting off topic abb0t
you guys are awesome...
You finally got it christine314?
btw how would i give you guys medals?
hit blue button
give it to me!!
Why what did you do abb0t?
ugh! I hate you christine!
I wish i can give it to both of you guys! I'm not the type of person to just like the answer given to me, I like when someone expains it to me :)
abb0t stop being a troll, also what you stated above, "It really depends on the compound you're referring to. Some compounds have different intermolecular forces." Is probably a huge generalization! I would bet you there are polymers that exist that have extremely high melting points.
Fair enough christine314, they use to allow the awarding of multiple medals I gave him one though, even though I don't really think he did that much, to convey the concept for you. Tell me your answer now though, I want to see if it is right.
If you can find that polymer, I'll give you a medal myself + an added bonus. How about that?
so the answer is water bonds mean a higher melting point because of the temperature and doesn't take enough energy so the higher the temperature is, the faster it breaks?
And, I am referring to an organic species, NOT inorganic. Also, excluding graphite.
I know the difference, it seems you are right though abb0t. What about diamonds those have really crazy melting conditions.
Christine14, You are still wrong. Think about the question critically!
darn it!
Organic means made with carbon abb0t, so you can't really exclude graphite.
and call it inorganic
sorry for not getting it correctly..
I retract my statement that you are correct abb0t
Don't apologize we are all wrong once in awhile, this is a trick question to btw
that's why im thinking so hard lol
Imagine a peer is asking you this question.
Then look at my post above where I summed up what constitutes a solid, liquid and gas and what a strong and weak bond are
I know them
Graphite is not organic. By definition, it should consist of both carbon \(and\) hydrogen.
Well read the question to yourself again then
Same goes for diamond.
I did so many times lol. The answer i thought about, was wrong :/ maybe im thinking too hard
Abb0t I think that definition is debatable but if we do go by your definition though I suppose you are correct, but I still have doubt in my mind that is impossible for an organic molecule to reach extreme melting temperatures.
or rather for one to exist
I'm in no way an expert in polymer chemistry
case and point.
i feel stupid
christine314 Stop thinking the question is correct.
You aren't stupid christine314 we all have these moments where we just cant get something maybe come back to it in an hour
If you find yourself spending too much time on a single question give it a rest for a bit.
im going to re read it and hopefully ill understand it
pay close attention to, Stop thinking the question is correct.
so the actual question is trying to confuse me by thinking its correct?
yes
it isnt trying to confuse you, it is testing to see if you understand the concepts
that explains it
it is also teaching you a valuable lesson
Can you answer it now?
the lesser bonds is more likely to reach its melting point?
use terms strong and weak
the weaker bonds is more likely to reach the point? idk if im saying it correctly
http://img.sparknotes.com/content/testprep/bookimgs/sat2/chemistry/0003/sat117002_0501.gif
WEAKER BONDS REQUIRE LESS ENERGY TO BREAK DOWN THE BONDS TO MELT. THE LESS ENERGY REQUIRED, THE EASIER IT IS, THE LOWER THE MELTING POINT?
that sounds about right
you should also state that the question is incorrect
ok, thank you so much, i wish i can give you a dozen medals lol
No problem
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