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OpenStudy (agent0smith):

A Difficult Calculus Problem

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Let \[\huge f(x) = \sqrt[3]{x^2+4x}\] and let g(x) be an antiderivative of f(x). Then if g(5) = 7 find g(1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

dude find the antiderivative of f(x) and then plug in g(1)

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

because g(x) = anti derivative of f(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah good luck with that program

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

I can't even find a u sub for this :S

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

basically you can never find a closed form anti derivative

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

no comment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not yet, although i am wondering if it is some simple gimmick that i do not see i.e. one hook that gets it

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

T_T

OpenStudy (anonymous):

stuck

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hint? or would a hint give it away?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

forget it... I'll write impossible or what are you doing to my brain? ^^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I believe this is a non-elementary integral

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I'll give a hint because I was completely stuck too, it's definitely not kick-you-in-the-crotch spit-on-your-neck obvious, even after seeing the solution. Let h(x) = g(x) - 7 You'll also need a calculator for a definite integral.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is the answer g(1)=-3.88222?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is one hell of a hint!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[h(5)=\int_a^5\sqrt[3]{x^2+4x}dx-7=0\] doesn't do much for me i tried with wolfram to make the integral 7 and i'll be damned if i can gotta start a bit to the left of \(-4\) but i can't figure out how much

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You're on the right track, kinda. Want another hint?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Aproximate \[ \int_0^5 f(x) dx + k =7\\ 12.1265 + k =7\\ k= 7-12.1265=-5.12645\\ \int_0^1 f(x) dx + k=1.24425- 5.12645\approx -3.88 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah another hint would be good, because all i am doing is numeric exercise

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@satellite73 see my solution. It is correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This problem is a numerical exercise

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i thought the answer was going to be something like \(-\pi\)

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

No, it's not that fancy, but I mentioned above you'd need a calculator for a definite integral. Since it's been solved in a similar way, here's the solution they used: http://ltcconline.net/greenl/courses/105/antiderivatives/DifficultProblemSolution.htm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

surely this is easier to tackle head-on?$$g(x)=\int f(x)\ dx\\g(5)-g(1)=\int_1^5 f(x)\ dx\\g(1)=g(5)-\int_1^5 f(x)\ dx\\ g(1)=7-\int_1^5\sqrt[3]{x^2+4x}\ dx\\g(1)\approx7-10.8822=-3.8822$$

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