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let m be the number of months for which they both add bumper stickers to their collection so bradley will add 4 x m and ryan will add 6 x m now their total number of stickers are equal after m months i.e. 23+4m = 9+6m do you get this ?
im not sure
so you need to equate 23 + 4m = 9+ 6m or 23- 9 = 6m - 4m or 14 = 2m or m = 14/2 = 7 so the answer would be 7 months
Bradley starts with 23 stickers. Ryan starts with 9. After 1 month, Bradley has 23 + 4, and Ryan has 9+6. After 2 months, Bradley has 23 + 4 + 4, and Ryan has 9 + 6 + 6. After 3 months, 23+4+4+4 and 9+6+6+6, and after \(m\) months, Bradley has \(23 + 4m\) and Ryan has \(9 + 6m\). The answer you seek is the value of \(m\) where \[23+4m = 9+6m\]
i got 1.4 i think im confused
what is the slope of the line that passes through the pair of points (-6, 8), and (2, 3)
You could also solve this by graphing lines and seeing where they intersect. In this graph, the x axis is the number of months, and the y axis is the number of stickers. The month where the two lines intersect is the month where they are equal
How did you come up with 1.4? Let's fix that before we go on to something else
i don't know i was combining like terms
are you talking about a different problem now, with the "what is the slope of the line..."?
no
okay. where did those points come from?
i divided 14 by 10
I agree that 14/10 = 1.4, but where did you come up with that?
do you see how to make a formula for the number of stickers Bradley has?
after \(m\) months?
yeah 23+4m=9+6m
well, that's both formulas, Bradley and Ryan. Bradley is the 23 + 4m part, Ryan is the 9 + 6m. So we need to solve that equation for \(m\). We solve it by getting \(m\) alone on one side of the equals sign.
combined like terms
\[23+4m = 9+6m\] We can do just about anything so long as we do it to both sides of the equation. Why don't we start by collecting all of the \(m\) terms on one side. If we subtract \(4m\) from each side, we get: \[23 + 4m - 4m = 9 + 6m - 4m\]which simplifies to \[23 = 9 + 2m\]right?
oh
this is really important to understand, so ask questions if it isn't crystal clear!
How could we go from \[23 = 9 + 2m\] to something where the right hand side only has terms with \(m\) and the left hand side only has numbers?
i did it backwards earlier
-9
subtract 9 from both sides? okay, what does that give you?
14 = 2m
14/2 = 7
good. and now to get the value of just 1 m instead of 2? yep, you got it!
m = 7
i guess you added 6m + 4m instead of subtracting, right?
yeah
and 23-9 = 14, then 14/10 = 1.4 this illustrates the importance of checking the answer! first, does 1.4 months make sense for this problem? no, not really, because it is talking about whole months and whole stickers. second, let's try it in the formula: \[23+4m=9+6m\]\[23 + 4(1.4) = 9 + 6(1.4)\]\[23+5.6 = 9 + 8.4\]\[28.6 \ne 17.4\]
always, always check your work :-) I like to reread the problem before doing so, because that will often catch errors where I didn't read the problem correctly the first time.
okay may we do the other problem
and if it turns out you made a mistake, and you have time, it's valuable to go back and figure out why you made the mistake. look for patterns in your mistakes so you know what to watch out for in the future. okay, what's the other problem?
what is the slope of the line that passes through the pair of points (-6, 8), and (2, 3)
gotcha. do you know the formula for the slope of a line going through two points?
maybe
if one point is \((x_1, y_1)\) and the other point is \((x_2,y_2)\), then the formula for the slope of a line through those two points is \[m = \frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}\] it doesn't matter which point is which, so long as you are consistent — you have to use the same order for both x and y
slope of a line through (2,2) and (1,1) is the same as the slope of a line through (1,1) and (2,2), right?
yes
okay, pick one of those points and call it \((x_1, y_1)\), then pick the other and call it \((x_2, y_2)\), then plug them into the formula for \(m\) (slope)
?
do the math, what do you get?
remember, points are given as (x,y), not (y,x)
do i subtract multiply or divide
okay. pick a point to be \((x_1,y_1)\). What is it?
-6, 3
but that isn't one of our points...
-6, 8
"what is the slope of the line that passes through the pair of points (-6, 8), and (2, 3)" So our points are (-6,8) and (2,3) -6, 8 isn't a point, you need the parentheses to indicate that it is a point (-6, 8) is \((x_1,y_1)\) so \(x_1 = -6\) and \(y_1 = 8\) with me so far?
yep
our other point is (2,3) so what are the values of \(x_2\) and \(y_2\)?
x2 = 2 and y2 = 3
good. now, the formula is \[m = \frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}\]and we have\[x_1=-6\]\[y_1=8\]\[x_2=2\]\[y_2=3\]Can you find the value of \(m\)?
-5/8
Yes, that's correct. as a visual check |dw:1389072137229:dw| the line slopes down and to the right, so the slope is negative
so im right
I said that, didn't I? :-)
again, important to check that you've done it correctly. notice how easy it would be to make a mistake with one of the signs and perhaps get the right number but the wrong sign
okay can you help with one more
probably, there's only one way to find out :-)
okay, do you know what point-slope form for a line equation is?
kinda
i just figured this out sorry for bothering you
oh, no bother...what did you get for the answer?
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