Let m be an integer, \(m\geq 2\), and let \(Z_m \)be the set of all positive integers less than m, \(Z_m = {0,1,.....,m-1}\) If \(\alpha ~~and~~\beta\) are in \(Z_m\), let \(\alpha +\beta\)be the least positive remainder obtained by dividing the sum of \(\alpha ~~and~~\beta\) by m Similarly, let \(\alpha\beta\) be the least positive remainder obtained by dividing the product of \(\alpha ~~and~~\beta\) by m. Prove: a) \(Z_m\) is a field if and only if m is a prime b) What is -1 in \(Z_5\) ? c)What is 1/3 in \(Z_7\) ? Please, help
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b) it's 4. \[4 \times 1 \equiv 4\equiv -1 \mod 5\]\[4 \times 2 \equiv 3\equiv -2 \mod 5\]\[4 \times 3 \equiv 2\equiv -3 \mod 5\]\[4 \times 4 \equiv 1\equiv -4 \mod 5\]
I got this , friend. In general, it is a multiple of 4, right?
i dont know this, sorrry. Thanks for helpinggg
c. 3x+7y=1 => 3(5)+7(-2)=1 => \(3\cdot5\equiv 1 \mod 7\), thus multiplying by 5 is equivalent to dividing by 3, mod 7. Ex. \( 3\cdot 5\equiv15\equiv1\mod 7 \) and \(3\div 3=1\) \( 6\cdot 5\equiv30\equiv2\mod 7 \) and \(6\div 3=2\) \( 9\cdot 5\equiv45\equiv3\mod 7 \) and \(9\div 3=3\) \( 12\cdot 5\equiv60\equiv 4\mod 7 \) and \(12\div 3=4\) and so on...
I am reading, not digest yet, hihihi... spending time to help other, that's why. I am sorry for that
I have a question there: 3*5 =1 (mod7) but 7*(anything) = 0 (mod 7) why do you choose -2?
Where are you stuck?
Beats me.
a)
for c) I was taught the remainder in Z_7 is an integer. I am not sure how to get 1/3
Let \(n=1/3\) that means \(3n=1\) and we know the definition for multiplication.
got you,
For a, you probably need to use the division algorithm \[ n = dq+r \]
what can you use for your proof?
I don't know, it's my lecture for next semester, my prof asks us preview before the course. I read the book and try some exercises
oh sorry i came late you are figuring out what \(\frac{1}{3}\) is in \(\mathbb{Z}_7\)
i have never seen it written like this before, usually it is written \(3^{-1}\) i.e. the multiplicative inverse of 3 there are no fractions in \(\mathbb{Z}_7\)
since you only have 7 elements, the best method is to grind it till you find it
\(1\times 3=3\) \[2\times 3=6\]\[3\times 3=2\]\[4\times 3=5\]\[5\times 3=1\] got it on the fifth try
you said that there is no fraction in Z_7??
yes, that is what i said, and i think i will stick by it
but i guess it is just a matter of notation is all since \(\mathbb{Z}_7\) is a field every non zero element has a multiplicative inverse but it is usually denoted as \(a^{-1}\) not \(\frac{1}{a}\)
so, it can be the answer, right? we can have "NO SOLUTION" as a solution, right?
no no, the answer is 5
\(5\times 3=1\) so \(5=3^{-1}\)
\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @wio Let \(n=1/3\) that means \(3n=1\) and we know the definition for multiplication. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Definition of multiplication is used to evaluate division.
what @wio said
just never seen it written as \(\frac{1}{3}\) before is all
\(1/3\) is not a number, but an algebraic expression to be parsed.
kk got it, just never saw it
For the proof, you probably want to factor \(m\) into its prime decomposition and consider the consequences.
Proving that something is a field can be pretty tedious, though.
oh, I used to learn this concept from my discrete math 2 years ago but just a little bit.
snap proof, in \(\mathbb{Z}\) the ideal \(p\mathbb{Z}\) is maximal, making \(\mathbb{Z}_p\cong \mathbb{Z}/p\mathbb{Z}\) a field but i have a feeling that is not what you are being asked to do what you have to show is that any \(n\in\mathbb{Z}_p\) has a multiplicative inverse
can you please help me @satellite73
all the other properties of being a field are routine, this is the only one that needs work, and i would suggest "bezout" or whatever it is called
@satellite73 I know Bezout theorem
proof is something like if \(m\in \mathbb{Z}_p\) then since \(p\) is prime, \(m\) and \(p\) are relatively prime therefore there are \(x,y\) with \(1=xm+yp\) this gives \[xm=1-yp\] etc
there is more to it, but that is the basic idea all other field properties are inherited from the regular properties of integers
yeah bezout. same thing as finding a unit fraction mod n. ax+by=1 => ax = 1 mod y => a = 1/x mod y that's all i did. you were specifically looking for the inverse of 3 so x = 3.
Thanks all, now I know where I can start learning.
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