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OpenStudy (math2400):

Evalute the integrals. Stuck on these two problems<< could someone explain?

OpenStudy (math2400):

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

O.O @Luigi0210 psst help meh here

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Distribute the first one. Kainui will be of better help tho~

OpenStudy (kainui):

The first one becomes a lot simpler to look at if you just multiply it out. You should recognize immediately that you have 2 things you can integrate already and some extra piece that you might not. But then remember, sin^2x+cos^2x=1 can be transformed by dividing both sides by cos^2x to get: \[\tan^2x+1=\sec^2x\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/52cf9501e4b039126010fa67 plz help

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok lemme try that out

OpenStudy (kainui):

lol Once you're done with the first one and it makes sense if you need to ask any questions, like maybe it's not that obvious, that's ok just ask!, then we can do the second one.

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok so to check if I'm starting correctly, I multiply it out which would give me \[\sec ^{2}x + 2secxtanx+\tan ^{2}x\]

OpenStudy (kainui):

Exactly.

OpenStudy (kainui):

If you're familiar with the derivative of tan(x) and sec(x) you should be fine. If not, it's time to review real quick.

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Now you can just look at it as: \[\LARGE \int sec^2xdx+\int 2secxtanxdx+\int tan^2xdx\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

Would \(t\)-substitution work?

OpenStudy (kainui):

@Luigi0210 It's subtle, but I think making the substitution tan^2x=sec^2x-1 before separating it apart makes it a little nicer to look at since the sec^2x terms will combine.

OpenStudy (math2400):

hold up one sec i think i i got it!

OpenStudy (kainui):

Awesome! =)

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

@Kainui I see what you mean now~

OpenStudy (kainui):

The second integral relies on this trigonometric identity: \[\cos^2( \theta)=\frac{ 1+ \cos(2 \theta) }{ 2 }\] That's all the help I'm going to give for the second integral until you try it out. You might not even need any more help than this if you're lucky and clever enough.

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok so for the first intera I got tanx, second, 2secx but what would be the last one, tan^2x?

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Like kai said, replace the tan^2x with a trig identity c:

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

So try: \[\LARGE \int (sec^2x-1)dx\]

OpenStudy (math2400):

ohh. got it. is the answer 2tanx+2secx-x+C?

OpenStudy (kainui):

That looks like it. =)

OpenStudy (math2400):

thank you! now I'll try the second one(:

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Good luck~

OpenStudy (math2400):

i can use the double angle formula and change it so that that cos4x=1-2sin^2(2x) right??

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

@Kainui can help you with last one, I got no idea really on how to do it.

OpenStudy (math2400):

i'd have \[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi/4} \sqrt{2-2\sin ^{2}2x}\] look right?

OpenStudy (math2400):

and thanks @Luigi0210 :) haha I hate these problems cuz if u don't see what to do u just stare at it like wtf-_- lol

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

^Exactly

OpenStudy (kainui):

Sure, so there are two half angle formulas. Although you can use the one for sine like you are using, it's not the one I would suggest since it is still sort of confusing looking. Here are both half angle formulas side by side: \[-1+\cos(4x)=-2\sin^2(2x)\]\[1+\cos(4x)=2\cos^2(2x)\] So here you can plug in the whole (1+cos4x) part into the bottom of the square root to get: \[\sqrt{2}\int\limits_{0}^{\pi/4}\cos (2x)dx\]

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok i see! I've never been taught the half angle formulas so thank you for that(:

OpenStudy (kainui):

If you ever remember one half angle formula and not the other since one is basically adding and the other is subtracting and sine/cosine is if you remember: \[\sin^2 \theta+ \cos^2 \theta =1\] and\[\frac{ 1 }{ 2}-\frac{ 1 }{ 2}\cos(2 \theta)=\sin^2(\theta)\] You can plug in and find the other: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2}-\frac{ 1 }{ 2}\cos(2 \theta)+\cos^2(\theta)=1\]\[\cos^2(\theta)=\frac{ 1 }{ 2}+\frac{ 1 }{ 2}\cos(2 \theta)\]

OpenStudy (math2400):

got it! Thanks for that(: and is the answer sq(2)/2?

OpenStudy (kainui):

I actually sort of don't memorize those though... I sort of have the double angle formulas and sinx*cosx=(1/2)sin(2x) as visualized. |dw:1389337342044:dw| So you can see it starts out at 0 and goes + and then 0 then negative, then 0. So it must be a sine function: sinx*cosx=A*sin(f*x) but what's the amplitude and frequency of this sine wave? Well it looks like if you go around the circle it actually does two complete sine waves, +,-,+,- right? So f=2 What's the amplitude? Well if you think about it, right at 45 degrees both functions are sqrt(2)/2 and if you go any other direction from that, you'll have to decrease one of the functions. You could even use calculus to make sure that this is the maximum, but it's just intuition to help. So both are sqrt(2)/2, multiply them together: (sqrt(2)/2)^2=2/4=1/2=A sinxcosx=(1/2)sin(2x) Maybe that's just weird or not worth your time. Not everyone likes math as much as me haha.

OpenStudy (kainui):

Also yes, you're right that's the answer! =) Here's a good place to check your answers too, they have a show steps button that comes in handy: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral+0+to+pi%2F4+sqrt%281%2Bcos%284x%29%29dx

OpenStudy (math2400):

Wow! You know you're really really good at teaching!! That is so clever. lol i just bookmarked this page so i could find this easily. Thank you so much! Can u be my private tutor lmao You rock!

OpenStudy (kainui):

If you want me to go into more depth on my intuition of the double angle formulas and sinx*cosx I can probably explain it better haha. Also, when I reasoned out that you could find that 45 degrees is where the peaks are: \[d/dx(sinx*cosx)=\cos^2x-\sin^2x=0\] The slope is zero on a peak. \[\cos^2x=\sin^2x\] which.... surprise... \[\cos x= \sin x\] happens at 45. =P Glad I could help!

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