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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hello guys, looking for some calculus help on a specific type of rieman problem. I dont have any problems calculating the value as n goes to infinity ussualy, but this question I cant seem to get the right answer. I think it may be because of the square root. I know the answer is around 38, but I cant get it using the limit definition. Any help would be great and thanks in advance, will post pic below.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So yea I know that delta x is 7/n and Xi is 7i/n

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

Is it a multiple choice Q? If not, how u know the answer is around 38? U may need to show more than what u have posted on the pic... Reason i said that is because the infinite series has 7/n as a multiplier, so as n approaches infinity, all terms will approach zero. So something seems to be missing here. Sorry i could be completely wrong though.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Superdave, that isnt correct. there is a way to solve it and it involves the sigma equations such as i^2= n(2n+1)(n+1)/6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think its just the sqrt confusing me, because ussualy it isnt to hard you just pull on constants and use the sigma equations

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

@RobertSn thank you for the explanation - i should have noticed when u mentioned "riemann problem" n keep my mouth shut. Hopefully someone else can help u with this! Good luck :)

OpenStudy (ranga):

\[\sum_{k = 1}^{n}\sqrt{49 - 7\frac{ k }{ n }} * \frac{ 7 }{ n} = 7 * \sum_{k = 1}^{n}\sqrt{49 - 7\frac{ k }{ n }} * \frac{ 1 }{ n} = \]

OpenStudy (ranga):

\[7 * \sum_{k = 1}^{n}f(\frac{ k }{ n }) * \frac{ 1 }{ n} \quad where \quad f(x) = \sqrt{49 - 7x }\]

OpenStudy (ranga):

\[= 7 * \int\limits\limits\limits_{0}^{1}\sqrt{49-7x}~dx\]

OpenStudy (ranga):

Divide the closed interval [0,1] into n equal strips. The width of each strip will be 1/n. The kth strip will be at the location x = k/n. The height of this strip evaluated at the upper end of the interval will be f(k/n). The product f(k/n) * 1/n is the area of the strip. The Riemann Sum over the interval [0,1] will be the area under the curve f(x), the x-axis, and x= 0 and x = 1. This is same as integrating f(x) from 0 to 1.

OpenStudy (ranga):

oops, I forgot the squaring part inside the radical. \[= 7 * \int\limits\limits\limits\limits_{0}^{1}\sqrt{49-(7x)^2}~dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright il try that thanks for the help!

OpenStudy (ranga):

You are welcome.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And ranga, are you saying to integrate normally? Like use trig sub?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ranga

OpenStudy (ranga):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh. I meen it is not supposed to be done like that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand the steps you did up to what you have posted, but the questions wants it as the the lim n approaches infinity, because the class is not at the trig sub section yet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

something more like factoring out constants and cancelling ns

OpenStudy (anonymous):

using the limit definition of the integral

OpenStudy (ranga):

We are given a Riemann summation problem. Riemann summation is dividing an interval into n equal strips, calculating the area of each strip, adding up the total of all areas of the strips and find the sum as n->infinity. This reduces to the area under the curve which can be computed using a definite integral.

OpenStudy (ranga):

Find the sum as n->infinity of the series:\[\sqrt{49 - (\frac{7}{n})^2} * \frac{7}{n} + \sqrt{49 - (\frac{14}{n})^2} * \frac{7}{n} + ... + \sqrt{49 - (\frac{7n}{n})^2} * \frac{7}{n} \]The kth term of the series is: \[\sqrt{49 - (\frac{7k}{n})^2} * \frac{7}{n} \]The Riemann sum is: \[ \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum_{k = 1}^{n}\sqrt{49 - (7\frac{ k }{ n })^2} * \frac{ 7 }{ n} = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} 7 * \sum_{k = 1}^{n}f(\frac{ k }{ n }) * \frac{ 1 }{ n} \quad where \quad \\f(x) = \sqrt{49 - 49x^2 } = 7 * \sqrt{1 - x^2 } \]\[ \text{The Riemann sum is: } \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} 7 * \sum_{k = 1}^{n}f(\frac{ k }{ n }) * \frac{ 1 }{ n} = 7 * \int\limits\limits\limits\limits_{0}^{1}7 * \sqrt{1-x^2}~dx \\= 49 * \int\limits\limits\limits\limits_{0}^{1}\sqrt{1-x^2}~dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes great, that is more what i was trying to see! thanks

OpenStudy (ranga):

Typing these mathematical symbols is such a hassle. It took less than 5 minutes to solve the problem on paper but a lot longer to convey it through the math editor. :)

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