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OpenStudy (anonymous):

grh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@sourwing

OpenStudy (perl):

use the distance formula , you want the distance between (0,0) and (x,y) , where (x,y) is on the line y = mx + b

OpenStudy (perl):

so the distance between points (0,0) and ( x, mx + b ) , by substitution

OpenStudy (perl):

d = sqrt ( (x - 0) ^2 + ( mx + b - 0) ^2 ) d = sqrt[ x^2 + (mx+b)^2 ]

OpenStudy (perl):

now take the derivative, since you want to minimize this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im in precalc im not supposed to be using derivatives even if i do know them

OpenStudy (perl):

so solve a complicated geometry argument, good luck

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow thats harsh

OpenStudy (perl):

seriously?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahaha

OpenStudy (perl):

im in precalculus? wtf i sprecalculaus

OpenStudy (perl):

math is math

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i know but teacher said that he didnt want us using advanced stuff even if we knew it so i can't

OpenStudy (perl):

ok, the shortest distance from y = mx + b , to (0,0) will be on a perpindicular line

OpenStudy (perl):

so draw y = mx + b , a generic line , and the closest to (0,0) will be a segment that is perpindicular, i cant draw it here unfortunately

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats what i di the first time and i kept getting the origin as my point

OpenStudy (perl):

draw y = mx + b so that it does not go through teh origin

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i used 2x+2

OpenStudy (perl):

we need this to be general . y = mx + b , the slope of the perpindicular line to it is -1/m. now this perpindicular goes through (0,0). so you want a line that has slope -1/m and goes through (0,0). so the perpindicular is y = -1/m * x

OpenStudy (perl):

, now we find where y = -1/m*x and y = mx + b intersect ,

OpenStudy (perl):

-1/m * x = mx + b , solve for x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=b/((-1/m)-m)

OpenStudy (perl):

how did you get that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x((-1/m)-m)=b x=b/((-1/m)-m)

OpenStudy (perl):

oh nevermind i see :)

OpenStudy (perl):

, ok simplifying we get x = -mb / ( m^2 + 1 )

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how did you get that?

OpenStudy (perl):

so thats your x coordinate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how did you go from x=b/((-1/m)-m) to x = -mb / ( m^2 + 1 )

OpenStudy (perl):

first simplify the denominator -1/m - m = -1/m - m/1 = -1/m - m^2/m = (-1 - m^2) / m

OpenStudy (anonymous):

never mind i got it know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now*

OpenStudy (perl):

ok so thats your x coordinate, to find the y coordinate plug that into y = mx + b , for x

OpenStudy (perl):

heh, it turns out the calculus way is harder,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha cool

OpenStudy (perl):

actually i take that back, its easier :)

OpenStudy (perl):

at least to find the x coordinate

OpenStudy (perl):

without calculus i had to invoke some geometry principles ;)

OpenStudy (perl):

err, regarding the slope thingy

OpenStudy (perl):

its funny that we both asked . how did you get that,

OpenStudy (perl):

now do you have any trouble with finding the y coordinate

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