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OpenStudy (anonymous):

integral u substitution question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

integral (cot2x-csc2x)^2dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

any ideas?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i wud try and simplify the trig part first...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah with that I got

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

cot = cos/sin csc = 1/sin

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah cos2x-1/sin2x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and I could use u as sin2x and have du=2cos2xdx but that makes me question what do I do with the 1?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

dont do the substitution yet, it simplifies more..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

cos2x-1/sin2x -2sin^2x / 2sinxcosx -tanx

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

dont forget that this thing is under a square

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

u need to take : integral (-tanx)^2 dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much I did not think of that and i had my identity sheet in front of me

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but what happened to the 2x on the inside when you went to tanx?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

see if u can finish it off..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

which 2x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you have -2sin2x/2sinxcosx and i know that sin over cos is the tanx but how does that go to tanx?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh my bad sorry misread it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nvm

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

:) its -2sin^2x in the numerator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now im stuck again so we end with -tanx which is -sinx/cosx and make u=cosx we have du=-sinxdx so then we have the integral of u^-1 which so far from what I have learned we cant do

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

whats derivative of 'ln x' ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah we havent done integration with logs yet he told us to skip another one cuz of that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but so derivative of lnx would be 1/x right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

good :) there is a better way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so would the answer be the lnu+c?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

use this : tan^2x + 1 = sec^2x

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

integral tan^2x dx integral (sec^2x - 1) dx

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you must be knowing integrals for sec^2x and 1 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes so it would be -(tanx-x+c)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or no the negative goes away because of the ^2?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

from where "-" is coming ha ? it should be just : tanx -x + c

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

^^yess..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you for all your help

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :)

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