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OpenStudy (fifciol):

Help with integral

OpenStudy (fifciol):

int sin^5(x) / sqrt(1-x^2)

OpenStudy (fifciol):

@zepdrix

OpenStudy (fifciol):

@satellite73

OpenStudy (turingtest):

try x=cos(t)

OpenStudy (fifciol):

-sin(cos(t))dt after substitution

OpenStudy (turingtest):

no, you changed the exponent

OpenStudy (turingtest):

in the denominator you get sin(t), and dx=-sin(t)dt

OpenStudy (fifciol):

-sin^5(cost) dt

OpenStudy (turingtest):

right, but we will now need another substitution, so I suggest you keep it in the form sin^4(cost)(-sin(t))dt now you can use a u-substitution

OpenStudy (fifciol):

shouldn't it be sin^4(cost)*(sin(cost))dt ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

oh hm... you are right, we messed up earlier after the sub it becomes int sin^5(cos(t))/sqrt(1-cos^2(t)) *(-sin(t))dt =int -sin^5(cos(t)) hm... darn. gotta keep thinking I guess

OpenStudy (turingtest):

question 1: where did this integral come from? question 2: are you sure you want the indefinite integral?

OpenStudy (fifciol):

from exam. teacher said i should use some smart substitution

OpenStudy (fifciol):

yes the indefinite one

OpenStudy (fifciol):

but even wolfram can't do this, so maybe my teacher made a mistake

OpenStudy (fifciol):

i tried whole bunch of substitution, neither one works

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yeah, I've noticed that. No matter how I slice it, wolfram won't do it. Doesn't mean it can't be done, but it's discouraging

OpenStudy (turingtest):

oh well, I'll just keep meditating on that magic substitution

OpenStudy (fifciol):

ok, thanks

OpenStudy (turingtest):

you tell me if you see a mistake in this one: u=sqrt(1-x^2) -> x=sqrt(1-u^2) dx=-2udu/sqrt(1-u^2) integral becomes int sin^5[sqrt(1-u^2)](-2u)du/[u*sqrt(1-u^2)] =-int sin^5[sqrt(1-u^2)]udu/sqrt(1-u^2) v=sqrt(1-u^2) ->dv=-2udu/sqrt(1-u^2) -> -dv/2=udu/sqrt(1-u^2) integral becomes 1/2 int sin^5(v)dv did I make a mistake?

OpenStudy (fifciol):

int sin^5[sqrt(1-u^2)](-2u)du/[u*sqrt(1-u^2)] =-int sin^5[sqrt(1-u^2)]du/sqrt(1-u^2) u's cancel out

OpenStudy (fifciol):

and dx=-udu/sqrt(1-u^2)

OpenStudy (fifciol):

but that's a detail

OpenStudy (turingtest):

fudge, yep this one is gnarly

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