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OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is the simplest form of

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my answer is 9

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-28 -18 9 or 57

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if I am wrong can someone explain it ?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

your answer choices don't include -9?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it might be -28 cause I get - 83/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what are your anwser choices

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

exponentiation binds tighter than unary minus, so that's effectively -1*27^(2/3) not (-27)^(2/3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

9 is correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-28 or -18 or 9 or57

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The website that I use to check my answers is: http://www.algebra.com/services/rendering/simplifier.mpl

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

so try -27^(2/3) there :-)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohh I didn't notice that it was -27, I read it as positive, sorry for the confusion.

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

anything with a negative number in the radical produces an imaginary number... i

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

so... ughhh let's just twiddla this thing

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

http://www.twiddla.com/1469553

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

that's true, but the question here is did they intend to write the negative sign in the radical, or were they simply sloppy. what they wrote is the equivalent of -1*27^(2/3)

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

I got 9

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

IF AND ONLY IF THERE IS A () in the radical

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

if not then it would've be cube root of -729 and that's 9i

OpenStudy (mathmale):

It just so happens that -27 is a perfect cube: the cube of -3. However, if you write -27^(2/3), the exponentiation applies only to the 27, not to the -27. Thus, you are evaluating -[27^(2/3)]. Note that the cube root of 27 is 3. Therefore, as I see it, 27^(1/3) = 3, and 27^(2/3)=(3)^2, or 9. And that 9 is inside brackets: [9]. And you must write that negative sign (from the 3rd line of type, above) in front of that [9]. That's my take on this problem.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Too bad that the four possible answers you've shared apparently don't include -9. U-Doll: note that we're discussing third roots here, not square roots, so that discussion about i is irrelevant, isn't it?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

dude I said cube root... I didn't mention a square did I?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

and get a grip any radical with a negative sign inside produces an imaginary number... read what whpalmer said

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

what does the question really tell us? was it their sloppiness or something else?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

pfft forget your explanation.. the answer is 9. how to check... well 9^3 which is 9 X 9 X 9 = 729

OpenStudy (mathmale):

UsukiDoll: quoting you: "if not then it would've be cube root of -729 and that's 9i": Please justify your statement. Notice that (9i)^2=-81, and so (9i)^3=(-81)(9i) = -729i (not the same as -729). The cube root of 729 is 9; the cube root of (-729) is -9.

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

omg don't teach me on roots. I know what they are!

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

If you believe this is supposed to be the 2/3 root of -27, (-27)^(2/3) = (-1*27)^(2/3) = (-1)^(2/3) * (27)^(2/3) -1^(2/3) is complex.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Have it your own way, UD. I'm leaving.

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

Here is what I wrote earlier...IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH ! "I got 9 ... IF AND ONLY IF THERE IS A () in the radical...if not then it would've be cube root of -729 and that's 9i"

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

yeah please leave. you don't have a clue

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Thank you for your kind compliments.

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

THEN GO!

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

*kicks a can* bah! Thinking that I don't know cube roots. YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN MISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

I wasn't even saying square roots and this guy went all over wt fdkslfjsdafjdsklfjdl;jfl;fkl;sajfdsajfkdsa

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

cube root of -729 is not 9i the 3 cube roots of -729 are -9, 9e^(-i*pi/3), and 9e^(i*pi/3) 9i*9i*9i = 729 * i^3 = 729 * i^2 * i = 729 * (-1) * i = -729i -729i != -729 therefore, 9i is not a cube root of -729

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

i is an imaginary number right? ... how would you explain the square root of -4?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

the way I was taught.. sqrt(-4) is 2i

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

i^2 is a negative 1...I still remember that

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

yes. sqrt(-4) = 2i sqrt(-4) = sqrt(-1*4) = sqrt(-1)*sqrt(4) = i*2 = 2i

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

but the numeric forms of the cube root of -729 are -9 and two complex conjugates: 4.5 + 7.79423i and 4.5 - 7.79423i (approximately) let a = 4.5 b = 7.79423i (a+b)^3 = (a+b)(a+b)(a+b) = (a^2 + 2ab + b^2)(a+b) = a^3 + 2a^2b + ab^2 + a^2b + 2ab^2 + b^3 = a^3 + 3a^2b + 3ab^2 + b^3 plug in the numbers: (4.5)^3 + 3(4.5)^2(7.79423i) + 3(4.5)(7.79423i)^2 + (7.79423i)^3 i^2 = -1 (4.5)^3 + 3(4.5)^2(7.79423i) - 3(4.5)(7.79423)^2 - (7.79423)^3*i 91.125 + 473.5i - 820.125 - 473.5i 91.125-820.125 -729

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