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OpenStudy (usukidoll):

Consider the following statements: P: The integer n is divisible by 2 Q. The integer n is divisible by 3 R. The integer n is divisible by 6 Translate the following logical expressions into good English sentences. 1. ~P V ~Q 2. [(P V Q) ^ ~(P ^Q)] -> ~R

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

so ~P would be that the integer n isn't divisible by 2 and ~Q would be that the integer n isn't divisible by 3 Therefore, ~P V ~Q would mean that the integer n isn't divisible by 2 or the integer n isn't divisible by 3

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

yes

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

second is kind of nasty... so I'll break it into parts P V Q = > The integer n is divisible by 2 or The integer n is divisible by 3 P ^ Q = > The integer n is divisible by 2 or The integer n is divisible by 3 ~(P ^ Q) = > The integer n isn't divisible by 2 or The integer n isn't divisible by 3 implies not R which is The integer n isn't divisible by 6

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

A HA! If The integer n is divisible by 2 or The integer n is divisible by 3 AND The integer n isn't divisible by 2 AND The integer n isn't divisible by 3 then the integer n isn't divisible by 6

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

OOPS! ^ IS AND! OUCH P ^ Q = > The integer n is divisible by 2 and The integer n is divisible by 3 ~(P ^ Q) = > The integer n isn't divisible by 2 and The integer n isn't divisible by 3

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

that is so wordy...

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

this whole sentence is nasty :/ If The integer n is divisible by 2 or The integer n is divisible by 3 AND The integer n isn't divisible by 2 AND The integer n isn't divisible by 3 then the integer n isn't divisible by 6

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

how can we make this sentence less messy?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

If the integer n is either divisible by 2 OR 3, and if it isn't divisible by 2 AND 3, then the integer n isn't divisible by 6

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

What logical expression conveys the meaning of the following English sentence? An integer n is divisible by 6 if and only if it is divisible by both 2 and 3. R <---> (P ^ Q)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks good

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

Write the contra-positive of [(P V Q) ^ ~(P ^Q)] -> ~R eeeeeyah let [(P V Q) ^ ~(P ^Q)] be J since it's so long J --- > ~R converse ~R --->J contrap R ---> J

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

J --- > ~R converse ~R --->J contrap R ---> ~J

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

oh crud X>X my bad... tired hands lol

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

but yes it would be regular r and not J R ---> ~J

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

no need to simplify right ? just writing it is enough ?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

yup ^^

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

oh good thats some relief :P

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

from additional practice sections. no way in ****** I would truth table that

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

shouldnt be hard to truth table it incase if u r forced to..

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

true

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

P Q R P V Q ~(P ^ Q) implies R

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

Consider the saying "All that glitters is not gold." What about "Not all that glitters is gold?" Which is the true statement? Are the two statements negations of each other? Write the negation of each statement.

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

K like that's All that glitters is gold for a negation All that glitters is gold for the second... WOAH! similar sentences?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

oh wait ... maybe it's ALl that glitters is not gold... oh wow. umm errr x) O_____________o

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

All that glitters is not gold All that glitters is gold Not all that glitters is gold All that glitters is gold... whoa!!!!!!!! wha wha.a..a..a.a unless that's all that glitters is not gold... wow umm err

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

original saying is this : if something glitters, it doesnt mean it is gold

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

true could be silver or copper

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Consider the saying "All that glitters is not gold." What about "Not all that glitters is gold?" Which is the true statement? Are the two statements negations of each other? Write the negation of each statement. Both statements are equivalent. negation wud be :- All that glitters is gold

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i could be wrong lol... my head is also spinning :o

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

yeah that's what I got too.. identical sentences I was like lolwut

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

by the way I got that assignment back with the cite previous result... apparently I wasn't the only one who got confused with the directions

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lets try this : P : All that glitters Q : Gold ~P : All that NOT glitters ~Q : Not Gold

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

It was just state the proposition...oh wow like how can a lot of people know what the **** that cite previous result was ughhhhhh

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

I was like >:(

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

form two conditionals : "All that glitters is not gold." P -> ~Q "Not All that glitters is gold." ~P -> Q

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

form truth table, looks our initial thinking is incorrect. they dont seem to be equivalent now :o

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

dont forget the negation of the universal quantifier is equivalent to the existential qualifier of the negation

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

argh this thing is confusing like "cite previous result"

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

he wrote and I quote "you didn't have to do that much. . . just state the proposition. " O M G I was like W T sdkfjsdafjslfdkfjdfsa;lfjsdklfjdslf;sdajfkdlsfjdlsfl;safjfklsdsdjfklsfjskljf

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@UnkleRhaukus help

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

What is the question we on?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if i form conditional statements and create truth tables, they are not equivalent. however they seem to be equivalent in common sense

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

this one : Consider the saying "All that glitters is not gold." What about "Not all that glitters is gold?" Which is the true statement? Are the two statements negations of each other? Write the negation of each statement.

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

Those two statements say the same thing, just because it glitters doesn't mean it is gold both are true, (they are not negations of one-another) The negation is "All that glitters is gold" (which happens to be false) [consider snow globes] snow globes exist , snow globes glitter, snow globes are not gold , hence there exists something that glitters that is not gold

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

same thing just reworded differently?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

makes sense :) forming conditionals is a bad idea lol.. these are not conditionals in the first place. "Exists" and "All" are the quantifiers to think around I see xD

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