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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find cos θ if sin θ = (-12/13) and tan θ > 0.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Good morning! At least it's still morning here in Southern California. If sin theta is -12/13, in which two quadrants could theta NOT lie? That means that theta must either be in quadrant ( ) or quadrant ( ).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

quadrant 2 and 3?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Please explain your reasoning.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

am i right though?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

About Q2: no. Q3: yes. Why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cause in quadrant three only tangent is positive

OpenStudy (mathmale):

True. But how do you define the sine function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uh sine is opposite/ hypotenuse

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Right, and in which quadrants is the "opposite side" negative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

quadrant 4?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Yes, and is that the only quadrant in which the opp side is negative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and quadrant three

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Yes. This business of identifying which quadrants apply to positive and negative opposite sides and positve and negative adjacent sides is truly important. In which quadrants is the cosine of x negative, and why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

quadrants 2 and three right?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Right. And why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because in quadrant 2 only sine is positive and in quadrant 3 only tangent is positive

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I'd rather that you remember cos theta = adj side over hypotenuse and that the adj side is negative in QII and QIII. Again, this know-how is important and it is worth your time to review and practice this.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

You've posted: "Find cos θ if sin θ = (-12/13) and tan θ > 0." Based on our recent discussion, theta must be in which quadrants?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

quadrant three and four

OpenStudy (mathmale):

That's right. OK. Supposing that we focus on the theta (angle) that is in Q4. Please determine the length of the adjacent side. How would you do that? You might want to sketch this angle for yourself and identify opp and adj sides as well as hyp.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

In Q4, the opp side is -12, the hyp is 13, and the adj side is ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the answer would be 5/-12

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Good. Now, how do we define the cosine function? cos theta = ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

adjacent/ hypotenuse

OpenStudy (mathmale):

In Q4, the adj side has length ?? and the hypotenuse has length ?? and therefore the cosine of theta in Q4 is ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5 and -12 so therefore the cosine of theta is 5/-12

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Let's backtrack a moment. Is the adj side pos or neg in Q4? Is the hyp pos or neg there?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

"5 and -12 so therefore the cosine of theta is 5/-12" To save your time: the hyp is never negative. Only the adj and the opp can be neg. So, please modify the above statement from you.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the cosine of theta is 12/5??

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Is that adj over hyp or hyp over adj? Which of these is correct?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Sorry this has turned out to be such a lengthy process. But this review is important. Are you able to give this discussion your full attention right now, or would you prefer to resume it later? I'd like to keep a steady stream of messages going back and forth if at all possible.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its just that I'm finishing an assignment that is being timed and I'm just answering the other questions

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Only you can decide how you want to use your time, but remember, every minute spent away from our discussion means a minute in which I have to find something else to do; this is not efficient for me.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Of course I could move through this problem quickly, giving you answers, but that'd be pointless if y ou don't have enough of the required background knowledge to answer future similar questions.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Because the adj side is + in Q4, and because the hypotenuse is always +, the cosine of theta in Q4 is therefore what? Before you answer, please type the formula for the cosine of theta.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cosine is adjacent/ hypotenuse

OpenStudy (mathmale):

yes, so in this case, the cosine of theta is what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

12/5

OpenStudy (mathmale):

but isn't that hyp over adj?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes so its 5/12 my bad

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I'd suggest you make up some flash cards or a review sheet and refer to it often until you can confidently identify which quadrants contains a given angle, as well as the def'ns of the 6 trig functions. Now

OpenStudy (mathmale):

you have one sub-problem left: you are to determine the cosine of theta in Q3, if I remember correctly. In Q3 what sign does the adj have?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

in Q3, what sign does the hyp have? the opp side? What is the cosine of theta in Q3?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I need to ask you again: are you able to give this discussion your full attention, respecting the time I am giving to you voluntarily, or would you prefer to complete your online test instead?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I'm sincerely glad we could work together. Hope there is a next time when you're not distracted by other tasks. Best of luck to you. Bye.

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