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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can someone help me with this question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Hmmm I can't bring up any good regression technique that allows you to determine the constant from all the data. So far what I can see that. \(v=-k_{r} \times [A] \times [B]\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (frostbite):

@aaronq

OpenStudy (aaronq):

there are 2 questions posted here, which one are we working on?

OpenStudy (frostbite):

#1 annoys me.

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Only solution I can see right now is multivariable regression analysis.... (way to over complicated I guess)

OpenStudy (frostbite):

and that \[\Large \nabla v=-k\] again not useful.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the seconnd one

OpenStudy (aaronq):

latex isn't working for me :S for the first one, if you figure out the rate law, i think you can just plug the values in for 2 of the trials and solve for k.

OpenStudy (frostbite):

You get the same number in 1 and 3 but 2 is different.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got the first one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its the 2ed one

OpenStudy (aaronq):

for the second you can use the arrheius equation, the two point one

OpenStudy (frostbite):

The Arrhenius equation \[\Large k=A \times \exp(\frac{ -E _{a} }{ RT })\] Set up the problem: \[\Large k _{2}=5.5 k_{1}\] Solve from there.

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Also a way of doing it :P

OpenStudy (aaronq):

haha that works too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got it

OpenStudy (frostbite):

In other words what you need to solve is: \[\Large A \times \exp(\frac{ -E _{a} }{ RT _{1} })=5.5 \times A \times \exp(\frac{ -E _{a} }{ RT _{2} })\] Alright.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can u help with another question

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Yeah?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Okay we use the Arrhenius equation again: \[\Large k=A \times \exp(\frac{ -E _{a} }{ RT })\] Rewrite it: \[\Large \ln(A)=\ln(A \times \exp(\frac{ -E _{a} }{ RT }))\] \[\Large \ln(k)=\ln(A) \times \frac{ -E _{a} }{ RT }\] Move a bit around: \[\Large \ln(k) = \frac{ E _{a} }{ R } \times T ^{-1} + \ln(A)\] This is a straight line and is best for 2 data points.

OpenStudy (frostbite):

So what you need to do is to ln() transform your rate constants and take the reciprocal temperature, plot it and find the slope. From the slope we then get: \[\Large \frac{ d[\ln(k)] }{ d(T ^{-1}) }=\frac{ -E _{a} }{ R }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but where it says point one and point two....what do i put in

OpenStudy (frostbite):

You put in the numbers: \(\large 225^{-1}\) and \(\large 675^{-1}\) in the x.

OpenStudy (frostbite):

And the numbers \(\large \ln(0.387)\) and \(\large \ln(0.833)\) in the y

OpenStudy (frostbite):

You see the idea?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

both y number came out negative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea

OpenStudy (frostbite):

It is alright.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok for the rise i got -0.766

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and run i got 2.96E10-3

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Okay, calculate the slope then.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

258.78

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Perfect. now calculate the activation energy.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2151.49

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Remember the minus :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 more question if u dont mind

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Last one, then I got to be going

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Right. \[\Large 1 cm ^{3}=0.001 l\] and that \[\Large N _{a}=6.02 \times 10^{23} \frac{ molecules }{ mol }\] Think you can solve the first one from here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 2.24E11

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how would i turn it to torr

OpenStudy (frostbite):

Emmmm a bit unsure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok then thank you so much

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