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Algebra 21 Online
OpenStudy (anonymous):

Simplify?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

One sec... my math input isn't working

OpenStudy (anonymous):

See attached... for some reason I can't input math where I am.

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

Hmmm, that attachment has no explanation on it. All I can see are: I got _______________________________________ Instructor got _____________________________________ By the way, I believe the OpenStudy Draw and Equations functions have not been working for a few days now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can see the attached fine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The file used microsoft word equation editor 3.0 for math input.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Should be native to MS Word

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not sure, I'm sorry.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let's try this. See attached.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is an absolute value. So dividing an absolute value with the same number would give you a negative answer, which would correct for the absolute value you missed in the simplification you had.

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

I just tried opening it with OpenOffice write and Open Office calc - even Notepad and it doesn't show up.

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

Okay, the png graphic works.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Mathbreaker - I'm not sure how that gives what the instructor shows for his final answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@wolf1728 - are you using this for OpenOffice? http://www.openoffice.org/product/math.html

OpenStudy (anonymous):

See, you have +/- 1 right? similarly, if the x is negative, it would give you a negative answer as the x would get cancelled, but the sign would remain unchanged, but if it is positive, there would be no difference :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@wolf1728 - also, the equation editor that is native to MS Word is a lite version of an application named MathType. I'm curious to know if you would be able to view that document if you install MathType on your computer. Likewise, if you create an OpenOffice document with equations built in MathType, would I be able to view it in Word.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right - I see that and that's a much different concept from my answer with the +/- 1. But I'm curious how he derived that from the equation in the first line. I'll post another document that shows my thought process each step of the way. One sec!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let's do this a little at a time. Right so far? (see attached)

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

I rewrote the graphic (now it has been redrawn by 8toenails

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The two terms are products... not differences. Other than that, everything is right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry, the two fractions.

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

Yes I was wondering if that was a dot • or a negative - Anyway, I thought making the graphic larger than the original would help.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's it!

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

You mean I drew it correctly? Or did I actually find an answer???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol... drew it correctly.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

FYI... here's the answer on W|A... it differs from both of us! http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=simplify+ [1%2F%28sqrt%28x^2%29*abs%28sqrt%28x^2%2B1%29%29%29]*[x%2Fsqrt%28x^2%2B1%29]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This input method sucks. It broke up the URL above.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ \text {If } \\ x \in R ,\\ \text{ then }\\ \sqrt{x^2+1} >0\\ \left | \sqrt{x^2+1} \right|=\sqrt{x^2+1}\\ \sqrt{x^2+1}\left | \sqrt{x^2+1} \right|=\sqrt{x^2+1} \sqrt{x^2+1} = x^2 +1\\ \sqrt{x^2} =|x| \] Replace and you get the answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks! Is there a web based app I can paste all of that into to see it plainly?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Got it! http://www.sciweavers.org/free-online-latex-equation-editor

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://www.codecogs.com/latex/eqneditor.php

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why are we saying \sqrt{x^2+1} >0 instead of it being +/ ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x^2 +1 >= 1 > 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So the same logic holds true for \sqrt{x^2} =|x| \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If |x| > 0 then can't we simplify the instructor's answer to just 1/(x^2+1) ? I feel like it can be simplified that way but he is showing me the answer in his form to make me think about it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the final answer would be the same as mine but without the +/-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If x >0, |x|=x if x<0 , |x|=-x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, I see what you're saying. That would make it different from my answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You cannot sya +/- for every x. It is + for x >0 and - for x <0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

say

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I gotcha. I'm in a Calc II course and the algebra is what's kicking my butt!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you for your time!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Use my site http://saab.org to practice calculus problems

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll take a look! Thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Especially http://www.saab.org/calculus.cgi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YW

OpenStudy (anonymous):

bookmarked! Thanks again!

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