@mathmale How does one begin factoring x^2 - x - 6?"
We have a couple of different approaches to consider. With this particular problem, P, I'd suggest you list the possible factors of -6. I would list them as
{1, 2, 3, 6, -1,-2, -3, -6}.
Which two of these combine to give you -1, the coefficient of the middle term of the expression you've typed in?
3 - 2 = 1 would be wrong; we wanted -1, not 1.
hm 1 and -2
Exactly right! -2 + 1 = -1. It's a bit of a jump from here to there, but we can write the factors of your expression by stealing those 2 factors of -6 and writing the factors as (x-[1]) and (x-[-2]). These simplify to (x-1) and (x+2). That's it. Check these factors by multiplying them together, using the FOIL method of multiplying binomials.
After a while you get the feel for this and the work becomes a lot easier and faster.
what does it equal ? i got a different answer
I've probably goofed somewhere; pls give me a moment to check your work and mine. We're so brilliant that one of us is bound to be right, and that could be you. :)
:D
plohrr: hm 1 and -2 I was way off in not recognizing that (1)(-2) do not multiply out to -6, even tho they do add up to -1. So I'll need to ask y ou to try again. Find other possible pairs in
{1, 2, 3, 6, -1,-2, -3, -6}. that do combine to yield -1 and whose product is -6, the last term in your trinomial expression.
ohh ok.
3 and -2!!
Do those multiply out to -6?
do those combine to yield -1?
I'm making myself a sandwich for lunch, so there will be brief delays here.
aw man wait
OK, try again; see what you can come up with that satisfies both criteria.
2 and -3!
satisfied that those 2 criteria are satisfied?
If you are, then 2 => (x-2) (note the opposite signs) and -3=> (x-[-3]) => (x+3). Multiply these two binomials together and see wehther you end up with your original trinomial expression.
yes it does
Isn't that great? This means you have successfully factored x^2 - x - 6!
YESSS
Do y ou have a list of homework problems? If so, would you mind choosing one more trinomial factor from that list and attempt factoring it?
give me another example !
(Big pat on back (yours))
i don't unfortunately :/
2x^2 + x -3 I need to double check this (for ease in factoring), but believe it's OK. Have you any idea of how to start? Earlier I asked you to write possible factors of -6, and we got {1, 2, 3, 6, -1,-2, -3, -6}. Now, the approach is a bit different: Multiply the 1st and last coefficients together (obtaining -6) and do exactly the same thing. Answer: {1, 2, 3, 6, -1,-2, -3, -6}.. I didn't plan this in this way; it just happened.
2*(-3) = -6, right? And -6 is the product of the first coefficient (2) and the last (-3). Agreed or not?
yes agreed
but now we need to get two factors that combine for -1 and multiply to -3 right
BRB
You might just luck out and find a possible factor right away. Or you might have to try dozens before you find the right ones (that is, factors that really do multiply into 2x^2 + x -3). Try guessing: write a possible factor; we'll check whether or not it actyually is a factor. Then we might move on to a more systematic way of doing this.
I need to know: Have you had any experience with synthetic division? long division? factoring by grouping?
yes i do
im not comfortable with them tho
Have you formed one possible factor that we could check?
x + 2
Lucky you. That happens to be a factor! But we must demonstrate that it is indeed a factor of 2x^2 + x -3. How would you do that if left to your own devices?
umm. we would have to find another factor right ?
Yes, but it'd make3 a bit more sense to write, "we need to verify that x+2 is indeed a factor of 2x^2 + x -3. Of these two, which is the least scary? synthetic division or long division?
synthetic division
i am not that familiar
I was hoping you'd say that. it's so much easier than long div. -2 | 2 1 -3 ------------ 2
Please multiply: -2 times that 2 at the very bottom. Hope this looks familair.
it doesn't at all lol
but -4
Write the -4 under the 1 but above the ---- line.
-2 | 2 1 -3 -4 ------------ 2
-2 | 2 1 -3 -4 ------------ 2
Combine that 1 and -4. -2 | 2 1 -3 -4 ------------ 2
Write the result (-3) below the ----- line and to the right of the 2 at the bottom.
-2 | 2 1 -3 -4 ------------ 2 -3
Wonderful. -2 | 2 1 -3 -4 ------------ 2 -3 Muliply that -2 and that -3 together; write the product under the -3 next to the -4.
-2 | 2 1 -3 -4 6 ------------ 2 -3
-2 | 2 1 -3 -4 6 ------------ 2 -3
Add together that -3 and that 6 in the rightmost column.
-2 | 2 1 -3 -4 6 ------------ 2 -3 3
Great. Here's the rule: If, at the end of synth. div., the sum of the numbers in the last column is zero, then the divisor (here, -2) is a root of the original expression. If NOT zero (which is the case here)
then the divisor (-2 here) is NOT a root of the original expression and the associated factor (x+2) is not actually a factor. I told you before that x+2 was a factor and that you had been lucky, but I was WRONG. Sorry ab out that. We'll
check x=1 instead of -2 this time: 1 | 2 1 -3 ----------------- 2
Know what to do next?
Multiply that 1 (the divisor) and the 2 at the very bottom together. Write this product under the 2nd 1, just above the ----- line.
um. is there a way to memorize all the division stuff ? it seems random
It's not at all random. I'll help you become familiar with it. 1 | 2 1 -3 2 ----------------- 2
Please add up the digits in the next-to last column. Copy the work above as you did before and write in the sum of 1 and 2 in the appropriate place.
1 | 2 1 -3 2 ----------------- 2 3
Great; now mult the divisor (1) and this last sum (3) together and write their product under the -3.
1 | 2 1 -3 2 3 ----------------- 2 3
Now, as before, add up the last column. What do y ou get?
1 | 2 1 -3 2 3 ----------------- 2 3 0
Here's the rule: If, at the end of synth. div., the sum of the numbers in the last column is zero, then the divisor (here, -2) is a root of the original expression.
so what is your conclusionj? is 1 a root or is it not? Is (x-1) a factor, or is it not?
no it is not they add to 5
Plohrr: Add the numbers in the last COLUMN, not the numbers in the last ROW. :)
OHH ok yes it is then
so, you see, if you add up the last col and you get a final sum of zero, then yes, 1 is a root of the polynomial expression and (x-1) is a factor of that expression. There you go. I still think this is easier than long division, but long d. will work equally well.
ok, so now we just guess the other factor and do synthtic div. until we find it ?
I'm going to need to stop, as much as I'd love to continue. I've been on the computer more or less continuously for the past 7 hours. If there's any way in which you could take notes from or copy our conversation, I urge you to do so; it's so important to have something to study and review later.
ok ! thanks for your help :D i learned a lot
Actually, you're almost done!! 1 | 2 1 -3 2 3 ----------------- 2 3 0 Drop the final 0 in the last row: 1 | 2 1 -3 2 3 ----------------- 2 3 Think of the 2 and the 3 as coefficients within another factor of the original expression: 3 is the constant coeff.; 2 is the coeff of x: 2x+3=0 results in x = -3/2 (a root) and (2x+3) is a factor!
Please make up a list of things that you'd like to discuss next time. Of course there is more to factoring than this, but this was a good, strong introduction to the concepts involved.
:) bye !
all the best to you. Bye!
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