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jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

Let f be the function with the first derivative defined by f'(x) = sin(x^3) for 0≤x≤2. determine the value of x for which f attains its absolute maximum value on the closed interval 0≤x≤2? Explain why this is the absolute maximum.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We know the max, min, inflection points occur when f' = 0 or undefined.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f' > 0 then f is increasing. f' < 0 then f is decreasing. Think of a maximum like a mountain, first you go up, then you go down. So we expect f' to go from a positive to a negative value at a max point.

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

so there is a f(x) max at x = 1.465 ?

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

but how would I figure out if it's the absolute max? :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

First consider y = x^3, which ranges as 0^3≤x^3≤2^3 => 0≤y≤8 Where would the roots be of sin(y)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You should have y = 0, pi, 2pi. This means x = 0, (pi)^(1/3), (2pi)^(1/3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We need to determine which ones are actual candidates for the maximum.

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

erm so end points and critical points of f(x) so 0 ---- 1.465 ---- 1.845 ---- 2

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

then do the derivative test thing? so f(x) increasing then decreasing then increasing?

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

so only 1.465 and 2 could possibly be maxes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

increase -> decrease means there is a max

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

so x = 1.465 is the absolute max on interval 0≤x≤2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, you don't need to go to a decrease state for an endpoint technically. For the start point you would be in a decrease state, for the final point you would be in an increase state. That would make you candidates for max

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

yeah so 1.465 and 2 can be maxes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, and I don't know how you would single one out without integration to be honest.

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

yeah, my teacher hadn't taught integrals yet, but he said that the area under the curve shows the amount of increase or decrease or whatever. so since the area of increase before 2 is less than the area of decrease after 1.465 therefore 1.465 is the absolute max between 0 and 2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well int a->b of f' = f(b) - f(a). If f(b)-f(a)>0, then f(b)>f(a)

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

erm.... ... so did I get it right? since the area of increase before 2 is less than the area of decrease after 1.465 therefore 1.465 is the absolute max between 0 and 2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dunno what you mean by area of decrease

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

like the area under the curve stuff

OpenStudy (anonymous):

look at area under the curve between 1.465 and 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If increasing, then 2 is bigger, if decreasing 1.465 is bigger

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

so it's 1.465? http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sin%28x%5E3%29+%3D+0++between+0+and+2

OpenStudy (ranga):

Between 0 and 1.465, the area is positive. --- (1) Between 1.465 and 1.845, the area is negative. ---- (2) Between 1.845 and 2, the area is positive. ----- (3) But more area is subtracted in (2) than is added in (3) and so there is a net loss in area by the time we get to x = 2. So f(x) must attain absolute max at x = 1.465

jigglypuff314 (jigglypuff314):

ok, thank you for your help! @ranga @wio

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