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OpenStudy (anonymous):

For the three function I, II, and III attached inside, which match the following definitions? There can be one that matches, two, all three, or none at all. a) Horizontal asymptote of y=4 **my answer II and III. is that right? :) b) The x-axis is a horizontal asymptote **not really sure which ones match this definition :/ c) Symmetric about the y-axis **also don't get this one :( d) An odd function **how would i figure out which ones are odd or not odd? e) Vertical asymptotes at x= +/- 4 **not sure which functions match this definition either :( but you factor and set to zero and solve for x right? :/ Thanks!! :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

three functions! :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

To get horizontal asymptotes, try to see how the functions behave as they approach plus or minus infinity...

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

a) Horizontal asymptote of y=4 **my answer II and III. is that right? :) looks right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i thought it if the numerator has the highest exponent, theres no horizontal asymp. and if the denominator has it, then y=0? and if the exponents are equal, you divide the coefficients? :/ are those the correct rules?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

oops... I really need to read the entirety of the stuff... yeah, tis right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay hahaha awesome :) yay! not really sure what part b is asking though :/

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

oh, and what it means for the x-axis to be a horizontal asymptote is if the line y = 0 is an asymptote.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay... how do you determine that?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

b) The x-axis is a horizontal asymptote means y=0 as terenz said. I think if you can find the others to be y=4, you can find this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh I'm just finding the asymp. here? ooh okayy... umm II and III, y=4 I denominator has the highest exponent, so y=0 ? so for this one, function I is a horizontal asymptote?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes indeed, but only because the highest exponent is in the denominator, which means it becomes bigger much more quickly than the numerator, thus making the entire fraction arbitrarily small as x runs to infinity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oooh okay yay! :) so onto c now! again, not sure what they mean by symmetric about the y-axis :/

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

For a function to be symmetric about the y axis, this MUST hold: f(x) = f(-x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay.. ermm how do we figure that out? :/ not sure where to start

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Well, try the first one, and replace all the x's with -x, and see if you get EXACTLY the same function.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okie :) I. y=4(-x)-1 -4x-1 _________ ____________ (-x)^2 + 16 = x^2 + 16 so this is a no right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did i do that right? haha

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes you did, is it EXACTLY the same function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

II. y=4(-x)^2-1 4x^2-1 _______________ = _____________ (-x)^2+16 x^2 + 16 ermm not sure if i did this right haha.. but if i did, this would be a yes right? since it's the same?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

II is a yes, yes, (LOL) What about III?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooh yay! no it's not.. so function I. doesn't match the definition of c ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahaha umm III. y=4(-x)^2+1 4x^2+1 _________________ = ____________ (-x)^2 - 16 x^2 - 16 so it's the same too right? so II and III are the ones that match the definition? :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's right :>

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooh yay!! :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Now the next one (odd function) is a bit tricky... For a function to be odd, this MUST hold: f(-x) = -f(x) IE, when you replace all the x's with -x, the result is the NEGATIVE of the original function. A rather simple odd function is x^3, or perhaps sin(x) since (-x)^3 = -x^3 and sin(-x) = -sin(x)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

By the way, another term for a function symmetrical about the y-axis is EVEN function ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay... let's see if i'm able to do this right haha I. f(-x)=4(-x)-1/(-x)^2+16 = -4x-1 / x^2 + 16 would this be odd? since it became -4x ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Remember that the ENTIRE function must have been turned negative... that -1 in the numerator didn't become +1 now, did it? ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

II. f(-x)=4(-x)^2 - 1 / (-x)^2 + 16 = 4x^2-1/ x^2 + 16 so this is a no right? and ohh okay... so function I is also a no go for this definition?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

no go, yup.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

III. f(-x)=4(-x)^2 + 1 / (-x)^2 + 16 = 4x^2 + 1 / x^2 + 16 so this is a no too? so this one would be none match right?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

yup. So...answer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

none ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's right ^_^ Next time this comes up, do yourself a favour, save some time: An even function is automatically NOT an odd function (obviously) and we just showed that II and III show even functions.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh okie :) cool will keep that in mind! hehe so last part! :O do you factor the bottom? :/

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That said, just because a function is not even doesn't mean it's odd (compare with real numbers, just because a number is not even doesn't mean it's odd, take 0.5 for instance ;) ) Now, back to reality: Just see if the function goes to plus or minus infinity as x goes to +/- 4. Hop to it, now ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha okie :P so i'm plugging in -4 and +4 into the x values?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I suppose you could do that... does it become infinity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if so, I. 4(4)-1 / (4)^2 +16= 15/32 ? 4(-4) - 1 / (-4)^2 + 16 = -16-1 / 16+16 = -17/32 ? so no, not infinity? or do you mean infinity as in an irrational number?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

infinity def does not mean an irrational number :P Means something divided by zero

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes, that ^ Just make sure that it isn't zero over zero, as that warrants further investigation ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay.. so function I is not over 0, so this isn't an answer right?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yup ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

II. 4(4)^2-1 / (4)^2+16 = 65/32 4(-4)^2-1 / (-4)^2 + 16= 65/32 so also not answer?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yup.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

III. 4(4)^2 + 1/(4)^2 -16 = 65/0 4(-4)^2 + 1 / (-4)^2 -16=65/0 ? so the only one that matches definition e is function III ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Ergo...? ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ergo... function III is the answer for letter e ? :P

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Et voila ^_^ Good job there :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yay!! thanks a bunch!!! :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Pas de problème :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha are you taking french? (i think lol)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

No :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh haha well your french is tres bon :P

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Merci :)

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