The volume of water in a bowl is given by V = 1/3(pi)(h)^2(60 - h) cm^3, where h is the depth of the water in centimeters. If the depth is increasing at the rate of 4 cm/sec when the water is 10 cm deep, how fast is the volume increasing at the instant?
@jigglypuff314
factor out V = 1/3(pi)(h)^2(60 - h) so = 20pih^2 - (1/3)pi h^3 then take derivative of that...
dV/dt = (dV/dh)(dh/dt) need to take derivatives. If not then find the volume V at h=10 cm and then at 0.01 s later, V' for h=10.04cm, and take the numerical rate of change dV/dt= (V'-V))/0.01s
20(pi)(h)^2-(pi)(h)^3/3
take the derivative of that :)
40(pi)(h)-(pi)(h)^2
close :) don't forget that when taking derivatives based on time you have to include dh/dt at the ends like 40(pi)(h)(dh/dt) - (pi)(h)^2(dh/dt) before you didn't have to do that because when taking the derivative d/dx it came out as dx/dx = 1 but now since your doing it as d/dt you'll have to keep the derivative parts :)
you were given that dh/dt = 4 and h = 10 so plug in so that V' = 40(pi)(10)(4) - (3/2)(pi)(10)^2(4) =
1000(pi)
yup :) that's what I got :)
one sec
1000/pie was incorrect
i did a txt this time
it's not 1000/pi it's 1000pi
as for the yahoo answers "MechEng2030" added an extra 0 to 200liters "Michael" got what we got :) and "Keith A" didn't convert radius to cm
we need cm^3/day
200 liters/day = 200000 cm^3/day
oh wait, do you mean for this question?
no, actually 1000p is not it either
I get \(1200\pi\) when I do the arithmetic
\[\frac{dV}{dh} = 40\pi h - \pi h^2\]\[\frac{dh}{dt} = 4\]\[\frac{dV}{dt} = \frac{dV}{dh}*\frac{dh}{dt} = 4(40\pi h - \pi h^2) = 4*(40*10\pi - 10*10*pi) = 4(300\pi)\]
did you say that for this problem she wanted cm^3/day and Not cm^3/sec ?
cm^3/sec
oh yeah, I see my mistake @whpalmer4 was right about the 1200 cm^3/day :)
Answer to the original problem is \(1200\pi\).
incorrect
No, it is correct. 1200pi cm^3/s is the rate of change of the volume when the water is 10cm deep and rising 4 cm/s. If the answer your system expects is different, it is incorrect, or the problem has been transmitted incorrectly.
my head.........
basically, once again we agree that 1200 cm^3/day is correct while you once again tell us that your teacher says that it is incorrect >,<
1200 just?
no, \(1200\pi \approx 3769.9111843077518862\)
yeah sorry, typo :P
darn...
Here's a check: at the precise moment where the height is 10 cm, the volume is \[V = \frac{1}{3}\pi(60-10)(10^2) \approx 5235.99\] At 1/1000 of a second later, the height has gone up by 1/1000*4 cm/s = 0.004 cm h = 10.004 cm \[V = \frac{1}{3}\pi(60-10.004)(10.004^2) \approx 5239.76\]\[\frac{dV}{dt} \approx \frac{\Delta V}{\Delta t} = \frac{5239.76-5235.99}{0.001} = 3770.41\] \[1200\pi \approx 3769.91\]\[\text{error} = \frac{3770.41-3769.91}{3769.91} = 0.013\%\]
wow nice @whpalmer4 !!!
Even after all these years of doing related rates problems, I still like to do such a calculation to check my work :-)
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mmm just stick with these answers and when possible, have your teacher give you her explanations for these problems then come back aye? :P
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