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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have to find the maximum profit in this question, and I keep getting it wrong. I've got the maximum revenue and graph down, but I'm confused. Please see attachment.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi @radar

OpenStudy (radar):

for the first part you want to find a graph with a cost slope a positive, that eliminates graph labeled B, now the nonlinear function for Revenue will be at 0 when x=0, that leaves only C.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which I answered correctly. I also answered the second part correctly. It says Max Profit is revenue minus cost, but who was cost?

OpenStudy (radar):

P(x) = R(x) - C(x) = -x^2 + 8x - (3x+4) = -x^2 + 8x - 3x -12 = -x^2 + 5x -12 P(x) = -x^2 +5x -12. P'(x) = -2x + 5 Is this the method you used to find maximum profit?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not at all. I didn't look at it that way. I was looking at it as Revenue being 16. So 16 minus some cost

OpenStudy (radar):

How did you get revenue as 16, was it given? I see where someone got 16 as an answer for the b. part. are you going to use that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No. I got it based off of the graph. Since Revenue is a quadratic equation, maximum revenue is the vertex. The vertex is (4,16), so I got 16 as maximum revenue

OpenStudy (radar):

O.K. that would be true. That maximum revenue occurs when the widget number 4. What else are we looking for?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Maximum profit. Which would mean we have to find cost. But I get 16 with cost as well, and 16-16=0, so profit would be 0, which is wrong

OpenStudy (radar):

My goodness, that makes it look like maximum profit is zero!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which keeps coming out wrong, I'm not sure how to go about this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I've got the correct answer if that helps you derive some sort of meaning I just don't understand how

OpenStudy (radar):

When you get the derivative of the profit function P'(x) = -2x + 5, that is a linear equation and when set to 0, you get x = 2 1/2 widgets which is befuddling me I don't think I can help you.

OpenStudy (radar):

What is the correct answer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The funny thing is, that's the correct answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Actually wait, it's 2.25

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't understand at all

OpenStudy (radar):

Sorry I don't either. Suggest you repost it and tag someone who you think can.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright thanks anyways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi @wio @whpalmer4

OpenStudy (radar):

I'm back after reviewing my posts I believe I now have the answer: Do you understand how I got P(x) = -x^2 + 5x - 4 ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah I was just doing that, and the vertex states that it would be 2.5, but the answer was 2.25

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah I was doing that, and the vertex states that it's 2.5, but the answer is 2.25

OpenStudy (radar):

From that P'(x) = -2x + 5 set this to 0 -2x + 5 = 0 2x=5 x = 5/2 widgets for maximum profit. Now we substitute 5/2 or (2 1/2) in the P(x) the profit function. -(5/2)^2 + 5 (5/2) -4 -25/4 + 12 1/2 -4 = -25/4 + 25/2 -4 -25/4 50/4 -16/4 = 9/4 = 2 1/4 or 2.25 I failed to put the value in the profit function and solve. lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did you get -2x+5 though?

OpenStudy (radar):

@Luce did you follow /the -2x + 5 is the derivative of the Profit function which was calculated by R(x) - C(x) and is P(x) -x^2 + 5x -4.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand the -x^2+5x-4, but how did you get -2x+5 from that? Do you mean derivative as a normal word, or is that a mathematics term?

OpenStudy (radar):

Used the power rule for derivative. First term -1x^2 becomes 2(-1)x^(2-1). In words take the exponent and multiply the coefficient. Now reduce the exponent by 1 get -2x. Did you understand, ......have you got into differentiation yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Looks like I haven't. Although I'm not sure how I'm supposed to get the answer if I haven't. Would there have been another method?

OpenStudy (radar):

2nd term 5x is the same as 5x^1, to differentiate (1)(5) x^(1-1) = 5x^0 = 5(1) = 5

OpenStudy (radar):

Well I guess you could of graphed the -x^2 + 5x - 4 or computed the vertex,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which is what I did. I just didn't plug it in. Everything makes so much more sense now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks a bunch, Radar

OpenStudy (radar):

Well you were not the only one who forgot to plug it in the function lol

OpenStudy (radar):

You're welcome and good luck Luce, I believe you will do well when you do get into calculus.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks, have a nice evening!

OpenStudy (radar):

You too, I'm outta here.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\[R(x) = -x^2 + 8x\]\[C(x) = 3x+4\]\[P(x) = R(x) - C(x) = -x^2 + 8x - (3x+4) = -x^2 + 5x -4\] \(P(x)\) is a parabola, in standard form \(y = ax^2 + bx + c\), with \(a = -1,\,b=5\,,c=-4\) Vertex of a parabola in standard form is found at(*) \[x = -\frac{b}{2a}\] Therefore the point of maximum profit is at \(x = -\frac{5}{2(-1)} = 2.5\) At the value \(x = 2.5, \,\,P(x) = -(2.5)^2 + 5(2.5) -4 = -6.25+12.5-4 = 2.25\) Note that the maximum profit did not occur at maximum revenue! I've attached a graph of all three quantities for your viewing pleasure. (*) Note that this is what @radar did with the first derivative of the curve. Hopefully you can follow enough of what he did to see that for a parabola this will always give you the vertex. The calculus approach will allow you find the interesting spots on considerably more complicated graphs, of course, but for a parabola, this is all you need.

OpenStudy (radar):

Thanks @whpalmer4 , I couldn't remember the x=-b/2a for locating the vertex. An excellent break down of how to approach that problem.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

@radar Just have to remember the standard form for a parabola is \[y = ax^2+bx+c\]First derivative is then \[y' = 2ax + b\]Set that equal to 0 at the vertex\[0 = 2ax + b\]Solve for \(x\)\[-b = 2ax\]\[x=-\frac{b}{2a}\]Now if you ever forget, you can derive it again for the poor souls who have not yet learned the glories of calculus :-)

OpenStudy (radar):

@whpalmer4 You bet, I know how to develop the quadratic formula using "completing the square" will add this to my bag of tricks. It has been so long since I had calculus that I hesitate to help in that area, especially integrals and differential equations.

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