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OpenStudy (perl):

I found a mistake in an article, i was wondering if someone could check it

OpenStudy (perl):

There is a mistake (I think) in this article http://www.learner.org/courses/mathilluminated/units/3/textbook/03.php#infinite where it says "(for if they were, it would indicate that the common unit could instead be 1/2 u, and we would simply make that adjustment)."

OpenStudy (perl):

it should say, if the common unit should be 2u, not 1/2 u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is actually interesting, I only comment on this to stay up to date on answers, I will have to read this tomorrow, pardon me. This article requires some attention, so I want to be more awake when I tackle it :-)

OpenStudy (perl):

ok :)

OpenStudy (ranga):

Yeah, I think it should be 2u. Take 12 and 16 It can be 2*6 and 2*8 with 2 as the common unit. m = 6 and n = 8. Both are even But we can double u and write it as 4*3 and 4*4 making u = 4 and m = 3 and n = 4. Now m and n are not both even.

OpenStudy (perl):

ok lets assume we have two lengths one is 12 inches and one is 16 inches (here i am using the common unit as an 'inch' ) but 12 inches = 4*3 inches, 16 inches = 4 * 4 inches. so i can make a new unit , call it 'kinches' , and 1 kinche = 4 inches. now 12 inches = 3 kinches, 16 inches = 4 kinches

OpenStudy (perl):

here we quadrupled the common unit, (or we can double it twice).

OpenStudy (ranga):

Yes. As long as m and n are even, we can keep pulling the common factor 2 out until it is reduced to the lowest form where they are not both even. So u will keep doubling.

OpenStudy (perl):

right :)

OpenStudy (perl):

to make it more general if a = 12 u b = 16 u then a = 3*4u b = 4* 4u Now let u' = 4u then a = 3*u' b = 4*u' , now m , n are not both even

OpenStudy (perl):

or to use easier numbers a = 4u b = 6u then a = 2 * 2u b = 3 * 2u Let u' = 2u a = 2u' b = 3u'

OpenStudy (ranga):

Yes. We are trying to pull the greatest common factor out of a and b. a = GCF * m b = GCF * n If m and n are both even, then we can keep pulling the factor 2 out and so the earlier GCF is really not the GCF.

OpenStudy (ranga):

Yes.

OpenStudy (perl):

i probably made a mistake, but you get the idea : )

OpenStudy (perl):

ok one more time Suppose that a and b have a common unit length u such that a = m*u b = n*u Let u' = GCF(m,n)*u. m' = m / GCF(m,n) n' = n / GCF(m,n) Then we can rewrite a,b as a = m' * u' b = n' * u' where m',n' are not both even (at least one is odd) .

OpenStudy (perl):

we can prove writing it out this way, m', n' are not both even

OpenStudy (perl):

but doing a proof is beyond the scope of my capabilities :)

OpenStudy (perl):

an interesting side note, I will prove a commensurability corollary. if it is true that any two lengths are commensurable (i know this hypothesis false , but assuming this is true) , then it follows that *all* lengths have a common unit. proof : starting with any two lengths, a & b which by the hypothesis is commensurable , have common unit length u. Then for any third length c, since any pair of lengths are commensurable , c is commensurable with a or b, and without loss of generality I will assume that c is commensurable with a. So far we have a = m*u b = n*u a = p*u' c = q*u' where m,n,p,q are positive integers, and u,u' are lengths. since a = m*u = p*u' , then u'= m*u/p Then c = q*u' = q * (m*u/p) = q*m/p * u now you can divide u until q*m/p is an integer.

OpenStudy (perl):

anyways, this underscores the difficulty in doing greek mathematics :)

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