what is the slope of the line normal to the graph y= x^2/ (3 in the radical thing, not sure what its called) √(3x^2+1) at x =1
\[\Large\bf\sf y=\frac{x^2}{\sqrt[3]{3x^2+1}},\qquad\qquad\text{at } x=1\]
That look right?
yes :)
We only need the `slope` of the normal line? We don't need to setup an equation for it? Oh that's nice :) So we'll start by finding the slope of the line `tangent` to the curve at x=1. How do we find tangent lines? Remember? :X
we derive to get slope? sorry;) and then y =mx +b
Since they didn't ask for the `equation` of the line normal to the curve, we don't have to worry about the y=mx+b part! We'll simply find the m, (which as you said, we'll derive to find it) and then we'll do some magic to find the slope of the normal line.
lol
Have you tried taking a derivative yet? This one is a bit of a doozy. Make sure you don't try to simplify.
no so we use quotient rule
sounds good.
ok ill do
\[\Large\bf\sf y'=\frac{\color{orangered}{(x^2)'}\sqrt[3]{3x^2+1}-x^2\color{orangered}{(\sqrt[3]{3x^2+1})'}}{\left(\sqrt[3]{3x^2+1}\right)^2}\] There's our quotient rule setup, Gotta differentiate the orange parts. Get to it girl! :O
i finished lol
Hmm kinda hard to write it all out on here isn't it? :\
jk still working on it wait im simplifying
\[\Large\bf\sf y'=\frac{\color{royalblue}{(2x)}\sqrt[3]{3x^2+1}-x^2\cdot\color{royalblue}{6x(3x^2+1)^{-2/3}}}{\left(\sqrt[3]{3x^2+1}\right)^2}\]
Nooo don't simplify :O that's a waste of time.
Did you get something like that?
lol yea i got that
Woops I forgot my 1/3 in front of the second term. my bad.
From the power rule on the cube root term.
\[\Large\bf\sf y'=\frac{\color{royalblue}{(2x)}\sqrt[3]{3x^2+1}-x^2\cdot\color{royalblue}{2x(3x^2+1)^{-2/3}}}{\left(\sqrt[3]{3x^2+1}\right)^2}\]
Now we'll evaluate it at x=1. This is why we don't want to simplify ahead of time :U Plugging in 1 should shrink it down pretty quickly.
hold pls i messed up whit the exponent s ill tell u
ok im their
so now we just plug in 1 to F(x)
y'x
ya find y'(1).
31/4??
wait forgot the bottom
sorry im confusing myself
Hmm this one is a doozy :\
yea help me pls
Mmm let's assume we did our derivative correctly and just see what happens. \[\Large\bf\sf y'=\frac{(2)4^{1/3}-2(4)^{-2/3}}{(4)^{2/3}}\]
So that's what I got when I plugged 1 in. Were you able to get to that step or so? :o
i forgot how to convert the square roots to fractions but i got it now
thank you
I hope we did that correctly D: Imma try the derivative again.. looks weird..
Ya if you use your calculator to simplify it down further, you'll end up with,\[\Large\bf\sf y'(1)\approx 0.9449408\]Which is good. That's correct, so our derivative looks good. That's the slope of the line `tangent` to our curve at x=1. Remember how a normal line relates to a tangent line?
If your teacher wants the answer in exact form, then maybe we should avoid the decimal :d it's up to you.
i honestly forgot but something simple
ya simple :d you flip and negate. The slope of the normal line will be the `negative reciprocal` of the slope of the tangent line.
\[\Large\bf\sf m_{\tan}\quad=\quad -\frac{1}{m_{norm}}\]
so is .945 the slope of the normal line b/c its one of my answers?
It's the slope of the tangent line. Or it should be at least :x
For the slope of the normal line, we need to flip it, and negate it.\[\Large\bf\sf m_{\tan}\approx 0.9449408\] The answer we're looking for, the slope of the normal line,\[\Large\bf\sf m_{norm}\approx -\frac{1}{0.9449408}\]
Hopefully this will give us one of your answer choices also ^^ lol
Do you have a fancy calculator you can do that step with? :D
yea i fgot the ti inspire thank you
Thank You Zepdrik Goodnight <3
get the right answer? :O go to bed!
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