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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find a plane containing the point (5,4,-6) and the line of intersection of the planes -x+2y+8z=-57 and 5x-4y+7z=-27 I found the cross product of the two equations and got 46i+47j-6k. I made x=0 and found the point (0, 615/46, -87/23). The answer is -54x+36y-132z=666 but I do not know how to get there.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well, (0, 615/46, -87/23) isn't on the line

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first pick two points that are on the intersection of the two planes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(-1,-5,-6) is one of them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So make one of the variables 0 and solve the equations?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you could, but you'll have fractions which make calculator more tedious

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the other point is (45,42,-12)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did you find those points?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I cheated XD. Wolfram alpha haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha. Okay.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It will take number theory to find those points, but for now, cheating is good enough XD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Knowing those two points, how do I find the equation of the plane?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now find two vectors using those two points and the point given

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then cross them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay. Let me try it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got the two vectors? shouldn't take this long

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just crossed multiplied them.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

crossed multiplied? you meant cross the two vectors?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. And I got -54i+36j-132z

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Anhoang: Consider carefully what info you need to define a plane. Secondly, please re-write your sentence, "I found the cross product of the two equations and got 46i+47j-6k." One doesn't find the cross product of equations; one writes the cross product of two vectors. Mind showing us your work? Now supposing that you correctly identify the two vectors whose cross product you're finding, and actually find their cross product. How will that cross product help you define the new plane you're seeking? The most common way to define a plane is \[a(x-x _{0})+b(y-y _{0}+c(z-z _{0})=0,\] where <a,b,c> is a vector NORMAL to the new plane and (x0,y0,z0) is a point IN that new plane. Have you actually found a vector NORMAL to the new plane?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

good, your normal vector matches with the answer given. Now just write the equation for the plane and simplify them. You should get the same asnwer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I solved it by... i j k 6 9 0 40 38 -6 (-54-0)i-(-36-0)j+(228-360)k = -54i+36y-132j

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you so much for your help!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep :)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Congrats, anhoang! Good guidance, sourwing.

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