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OpenStudy (nincompoop):

sum

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

\[\sum_{i=1}^{15}\frac{ 1 }{ n^3 }\left( i - 1 \right)^2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(1/n^2) sum (i - 1)^2, i=1..15

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

\[=\frac{ 1 }{ n^3 }\sum_{i=1}^{15}i^2+\sum_{i=1}^{15}2i+\sum_{i=1}^{15}1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/n^2 times ALL the sum, not just the first sum

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I messed up laughing out loud

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

that is what I meant

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

why 1/n^2?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

maybe set u = i-1, instead of expanding the square..

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

man I gotta start learning latex

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i meant 1/n^3. That 3 looks like a 2 in LaTex

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

how do you do that, @ganeshie8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the the middle sum should be MINUS

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

-2i yeah

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

man I hate latex

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or instead of expanding like ganeshie8 said, you can just do Sum i^2, i = 1..14

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large \sum \limits_{i=1}^{15}\frac{ 1 }{ n^3 }\left( i - 1 \right)^2 = \sum \limits_{u=1-1}^{15-1}\frac{ 1 }{ n^3 }\left( u \right)^2\)

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

\[=\frac{ 1 }{ n^3 }\left[ \sum_{i=1}^{15}i^2-\sum_{i=1}^{15}2i+\sum_{i=1}^{15}1\right]\]

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

okay, how would I evaluate the u^2?

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

oh I see...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

sum of first n squares = n(n+1)(2n+1)/6

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

thank you, guys that was a nifty trick I just learned

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

:) somtimes its hard to see by doing u = i-1 and all.. we cna see it easily by expanding the actual sum a bit :- \(\large \sum \limits_{i=1}^{15}\frac{ 1 }{ n^3 }\left( i - 1 \right)^2 = \frac{ 1 }{ n^3 } [(1-1)^2 + (2-1)^2 + .... + (15-1)^2]\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large \sum \limits_{i=1}^{15}\frac{ 1 }{ n^3 }\left( i - 1 \right)^2 = \frac{ 1 }{ n^3 } [(0)^2 + (1)^2 + .... + (14)^2]\)

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

so, essentially if I had \[\sum_{i=1}^{5}(2i+1) = \] ya I tried doing it and I was like okay what's next laughing out loud

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

now clearly, its a sum of first 14 squares... we dont need to put u=i-1 and all...( which requires actully thinking in reverse... )

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

oh.. it has to stay like that i feel... u wana convert it to single sum ha ? its actually sum of odd numbers from 3 to 11

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@sourwing

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

yeah it starts with 3

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

so essentially it's 3-11?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

3+5+... + 11 just thinking if we can convert it to a single sum..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i mean, in sum notation..

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

what I have been learning thus far is doing a subtraction so that it turns into 1 - 5 again

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

what I am actually doing is solving them using theorems

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

all that k and n notations

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yeah we cant simplify the sum notation.. we need to carry out two sums.. .

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\sum \limits_{i=1}^{5}(2i+1) = \sum \limits_{i=1}^{5}(2i) + \sum \limits_{i=1}^{5}1 \)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

u have any better ideas....

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

that's what I have and I can't use "u"

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

= 2(n(n+1)/2) + 5

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes got u :)

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

one last clarification, so going back to the original question the summation would start from 0 - 14 then? \[\frac{ 1 }{ n^3 } \sum_{i=0}^{14}i^2\]

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I feel like I am not grasping this "u" thing correctly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's the same thing if you start from 1 to 14

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

forget u, i also got confused afterwards... but this looks sum good.... since we verified already that the sum goes : 0^2 + 1^2 + ... + 14^2

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

*this sum looks good...

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

then it will be evaluated as 1/n^3 [n(n+1)(2n+1)/6]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

1/n^3 [14(14+1)(2*14+1)/6]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the n in 1/n^3 is different from the sum right ?

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

because it was originally 15?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1015/n^3 is final answer

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we dont knw what n in 1/n^3 is, originally..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

^^

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

rem you're right I assumed that the n is the same n that goes on top of the summation

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I thought it should be evaluated along with the sigma properties LAUGHING OUT LOUD omg this is terrible

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/n^3 is like a constant

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