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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Problem with Taylor series?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Write a second degree polynomial equation of McLaurin for the function \[F(x)=(f(x))^{g(x)}\] knowing that f(x) ang g(x) taylor series are respectively \[T _{f}^{}(x)=2-3x+2x ^{2} \]and\[T _{g}^{}(x)=x-3x ^{2}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

hmm what are the derivatives of f^g ?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

spose y = f^g ln(y) = g ln(f) y'/y = g' ln(f) + g f'/f y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f

OpenStudy (amistre64):

a maclaurin and a taylor are basically the same thing, so arent we just creating a series of coefficients?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Mac are centered about x=0, which prolly reduces the work by a ton

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f(0) ^g(0) = 2^0 = 1 for the first coefficient, and also tells us y=1 y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f y' = g' ln(2) + 0 f'/2 y' = g' ln(2), g' = 1 - <x>, at x=0 is 1 y' = ln(2) so far we have 1 + ln(2)x + y'' x^2/2! what is y''(0) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you please explain to me the first part?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did not understand this: spose y = f^g ln(y) = g ln(f) y'/y = g' ln(f) + g f'/f y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what did you do here?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i took the derivative of f^g

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its best to use logs to play with exponential functions like this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But the derivative of lny is 1/y and not y'/y

OpenStudy (amistre64):

for example: what is the derivative of 2^x? y = 2^x ln(y) = x ln(2) y'/y = x' ln(2) + x (0) y' = y ln(2) y' = 2^x ln(2)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the derivative of ln(y) .. with respect to x, is a chain rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

SO you mean that everytime I have to do the derivative of lny I should write y'/y?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the derivative of ln(y) *with respect to y* is 1/y ... but that is not what we are working out here. think implicit

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

whnever you have the derivative with respect to x, you should also write x' .... but it just so happens that x' = dx/dx = 1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

y' = dy/dx so we cant automatically assume it is equal to 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you so much

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youre welcome solving for y'', at x=0 should give us the x^2 coefficient of our Mac

OpenStudy (amistre64):

y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f y'' = y' g' ln(f) + y g'' ln(f) + yg' f'/f + y' g f'/f + y g' f'/f + yg f''/f - yg f'/f^2 if i kept it in sight lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Omg you're so fast, slow down a little bit xD

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f(0)=2−3x+2x2 = 2 f'(0) = -3+4x = -3 f''(0) = 4 = 4 g(0)=x−3x2 = 0 g'(0)=1−6x = 1 g''(0)=−6 = -6 y(0) = 2^0 = 1 y'(0) = ln(2) y''(0) = ln(2) ln(2) -6 ln(2) - 3/2 - 3/2 y''(0) = ln(2)( ln(2) -6) - 3 with any luck lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sorry, i was just having too much fun with this :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok there are some passages that I don't get '.'

OpenStudy (amistre64):

product rule ... a lot of work with product rules for y'' is all

OpenStudy (amistre64):

y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f 3 functions 4 functions [abc]' = a'bc + ab'c + abc' [abcd]' = a'bcd + ab'cd + abc'd + abcd' the rest is filling in the 'at 0' values

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah thanks. But in the original passage you wrote a minus. Is is actually a plus or a mistake?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and thank again for helping me

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1/f = f^-1, derivaticve is (-1)f^(-1-1) = - f^(-2)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its just a consequence of the derivative of what the 4th function in the set is all.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

slight error, which didnt make a difference, 1/f derives to -f'/f^2 silly me forgot the chain rule ... but that term zeroed out in the end so it was an insignificant error

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah ok, now I understood how it works. Thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You're good at this xD

OpenStudy (amistre64):

thnx ;) good luck

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Um... can i ask for your help for other problems next time?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if im not busy, sure. this is just what i do when there is a lull in my real job :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What kind of job do you have?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry for my curiosity xD

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