Problem with Taylor series?
Write a second degree polynomial equation of McLaurin for the function \[F(x)=(f(x))^{g(x)}\] knowing that f(x) ang g(x) taylor series are respectively \[T _{f}^{}(x)=2-3x+2x ^{2} \]and\[T _{g}^{}(x)=x-3x ^{2}\]
hmm what are the derivatives of f^g ?
spose y = f^g ln(y) = g ln(f) y'/y = g' ln(f) + g f'/f y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f
a maclaurin and a taylor are basically the same thing, so arent we just creating a series of coefficients?
Mac are centered about x=0, which prolly reduces the work by a ton
f(0) ^g(0) = 2^0 = 1 for the first coefficient, and also tells us y=1 y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f y' = g' ln(2) + 0 f'/2 y' = g' ln(2), g' = 1 - <x>, at x=0 is 1 y' = ln(2) so far we have 1 + ln(2)x + y'' x^2/2! what is y''(0) ?
wait a sec
can you please explain to me the first part?
I did not understand this: spose y = f^g ln(y) = g ln(f) y'/y = g' ln(f) + g f'/f y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f
what did you do here?
i took the derivative of f^g
its best to use logs to play with exponential functions like this
But the derivative of lny is 1/y and not y'/y
for example: what is the derivative of 2^x? y = 2^x ln(y) = x ln(2) y'/y = x' ln(2) + x (0) y' = y ln(2) y' = 2^x ln(2)
the derivative of ln(y) .. with respect to x, is a chain rule
SO you mean that everytime I have to do the derivative of lny I should write y'/y?
the derivative of ln(y) *with respect to y* is 1/y ... but that is not what we are working out here. think implicit
yes
whnever you have the derivative with respect to x, you should also write x' .... but it just so happens that x' = dx/dx = 1
y' = dy/dx so we cant automatically assume it is equal to 1
Thank you so much
youre welcome solving for y'', at x=0 should give us the x^2 coefficient of our Mac
y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f y'' = y' g' ln(f) + y g'' ln(f) + yg' f'/f + y' g f'/f + y g' f'/f + yg f''/f - yg f'/f^2 if i kept it in sight lol
Omg you're so fast, slow down a little bit xD
f(0)=2−3x+2x2 = 2 f'(0) = -3+4x = -3 f''(0) = 4 = 4 g(0)=x−3x2 = 0 g'(0)=1−6x = 1 g''(0)=−6 = -6 y(0) = 2^0 = 1 y'(0) = ln(2) y''(0) = ln(2) ln(2) -6 ln(2) - 3/2 - 3/2 y''(0) = ln(2)( ln(2) -6) - 3 with any luck lol
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y%3D%282-3x%2B2x%5E2%29%5E%28x-3x%5E2%29%2C+y%3D1%2Bx*ln%282%29%2Bx%5E2*%28ln%282%29%28ln%282%29-6%29-3%29%2F2 looks good to me :)
sorry, i was just having too much fun with this :)
Ok there are some passages that I don't get '.'
product rule ... a lot of work with product rules for y'' is all
y' = yg' ln(f) + yg f'/f 3 functions 4 functions [abc]' = a'bc + ab'c + abc' [abcd]' = a'bcd + ab'cd + abc'd + abcd' the rest is filling in the 'at 0' values
Ah thanks. But in the original passage you wrote a minus. Is is actually a plus or a mistake?
*it
and thank again for helping me
1/f = f^-1, derivaticve is (-1)f^(-1-1) = - f^(-2)
its just a consequence of the derivative of what the 4th function in the set is all.
slight error, which didnt make a difference, 1/f derives to -f'/f^2 silly me forgot the chain rule ... but that term zeroed out in the end so it was an insignificant error
Ah ok, now I understood how it works. Thanks
You're good at this xD
thnx ;) good luck
Um... can i ask for your help for other problems next time?
if im not busy, sure. this is just what i do when there is a lull in my real job :/
What kind of job do you have?
Sorry for my curiosity xD
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