MEDAL FOR WHOEVER HELPS. Sam, Pam, Ken and Jen are exchanging gifts for the holiday. Each name is written on a slip of paper and placed in a bowl. Sam is the first to randomly select a name from the bowl. How many different gift exchange pairings are there among Sam, Pam, Ken and Jen in which each person randomly selects a name other than their own name?
@Twitchie @adrynicoleb Please help me.
Well, Sam can pick from 3 people, Pam can pick from 3, Ken can pick from 2, Jen can pick from 1.
Thats what I thought wio. But the answer is 9. btw this is a mathcounts question.
Well, \(3+3+2+1 =9\), though it is a bit strange.
wio, adrynicoleb, I have to go eat dinner at a restaurant. I'll be back in a long time so please keep answering but dont expect me to reply.
i'll probably be back at 6:30 maybe
wio, here is the explanation i got. We can determine the answer by making an organized list. Suppose the friends select a name from the bowl in this order S, P, K and J. The table below shows the different pairings in which each person selects a name other than their own name: There are 9 such gift exchange pairings.
table did not show up :( ill just draw it.
gtg now wio. ill give u a medal when i get back. thanks for helping.
but please keep trying to answer it.
Here's how it is done: There are 4 factorial (4!) ways in which 4 people can choose 4 names SAM PAM KEN JEN To make things easier to track, we'll call Sam 1, Pam 2, Ken 3, and Jen 4 The attached graphic sows all 24 ways that 4 people can choose 4 names. The ones marked off with a red arrow indicate the 9 ways in which none of the people choose their own names.
@wolf1728 come
hi wio and honorsstudent.
Someone please reply
Hello
hi wolf can i have a quick way to do it? (this is a mathcounts problem so i need to solve it quickly)
You mean the gift problem resulting in 9?
yea thats the problem
Why arent you guys replying?
Just taking a guess you could mention derangements - you need to have all the names NOT match their own names.
I have no idea David. Sorry. ._. Listen to the smart people :P
thanks for trying adrynicoleb. oh well
I can't get a formula - I'm just searching for what topic this might be
@adrynicoleb can u fan me i want to pm u
I'm guesing that the solution of 9 is found by determining the derangements of 4. (A derangement is a sequence in which each member is out of order) 1234 is NOT a derangement 4312 IS
About math? @DavidUsa
From Wikipedia (can you use the link as a answer?) the derangements for 3 people 2 4 people 9 5 people 44 6 people 265 7 people 1854 8 people 14833 9 people 133496 From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement
Yeah @adrynicoleb
i dont understand wolfe.
Well, I suck at math. So that wouldn't work out very well...
not a question
I have found a formula !!! http://math.illinoisstate.edu/day/courses/old/305/contentderangements.html
wolf can u summarize it here? im in 6th grade thats gonna give me adhd
all that text
I am not good at anything related to math...
not a question i want to talk to u just pm u@adry
ok adry?
WOW they are asking this fro the 6th grade? Derangements??????? The total way the names can be drawn = number of people factorial 4! means factorial = 4*3*2*1 = 24 That's ALL the ways ALL the names are drawn Now to figure the derangements.
no im advanced math dude. this is mathcounts not classwork. i got 5th individual for chapter.
Derangements for 4 people = 4! *[1 - (1/1!) + (1/2!) - (1/3!) + (1/4!)] = 24 * (.5 -.33333333333 + 1/24) = 24 * .375 = 9
Made a mistake - 1/3! = 1/6 which equals .1666666666666666 All that's needed is to change in my nswer is to change the .333333333333 to .166666666666666
i dont understand but i probably wont anyway so u can just leave now.
@adrynicoleb can u fan me? i want to pm you.
Okay - I'm glad I found the formula - send a message if you want it explained some more. Glad I could help you out.
ok bye wolf
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