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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How to do this kind of question? Suppose p(x) is a polynomial with integer coefficients. Show that if p(a) = 1 for some integer a then p(x) has at most two integer roots.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

in other words : \(\large p(x) = 1 \mod a\) then show that \(p(x)\) has atmost 2 roots in mod a

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

this is going to be a long proof

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is mod? How to do that?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes nin... oh, this question is not from number theory ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I do not know. I have hw as this question. Can you teach please? I don't know any mod.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks @nincompoop has something :) im still thinking....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

can we use intermediate value theorem for this one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is that!?

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

probably not, because IVT only guarantees the existence of one value

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I am sorry, dude. I was just learning last night how to do this via perturbation theorem so I won't be able to help you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have an idea of an approach but i did not finish it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if \(p(x)=a_nx^n++a_0\) and \(p(r)=1\) then \(q(x)=a_nx^n+...+a_0-1\) has root \(r\) since \(r\) is an integer, it divided the constant \(a_0-1\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@nincompoop no probs. @satellite73 Can you explain a little?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually now i see i was wrong because it does not follow that \(r\) divides \(a_0-1\) gotta think some more what class is this for?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think the approach is to look at the zeros of \(p(x)-1\) since you know \(p(a)=1\) but frankly i am not sure where to go from there

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

I was just reading this but it is beyond me http://web.mit.edu/yisun/www/notes/polynomials.pdf

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

First observation : since we're looking for integer roots, then by rational root theorem, if \(n\) is a root, then \(n\) must divide the constant term \(a_0\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Second observation : from the hypothesis, \(p(a) = 1\) \(\implies a | (a_0-1) \)

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

does rational root theorem necessarily have to be f(x) = 0 I was thinking of this approach earlier but declined to proceed since I thought the root pertained to zeroes.

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

is it going to be f(x) - 1 = 0 then?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yeah and next step is the conclusion

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you have a point... rational root theorem gives possible roots, not the acctual roots :|

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

however out first two observations are still valid \(a | a_0-1\) is still a necessary condition for \(P(x)\) to leave to leave a remainder \(1\), when divided by \(a\)

OpenStudy (akashdeepdeb):

Hey! We have the same surname! If that is your surname. :P I have SOME KIND OF solution to it. i'll post it in a minute.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes :)

OpenStudy (akashdeepdeb):

I am not sure if it is correct though. :/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks good to me xD but il give a good thought tomorrow :))

OpenStudy (akashdeepdeb):

Okay. Thanks!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@nincompoop plz see .. il have a good look again in the morning :)

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

:o

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