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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why only CONCENTRATED sulfuric acid a dehydrating agent?? why not dilute???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can u help?? please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@wolfe8 pls

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

I'd guess because it would absorb the water to dilute itself? (layman's words)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dehydration usually starts with protonation right? like if u want to dehydrate ethanol to get ethene ,, the (H+) ion given by sulphuric acid protonates the oxygen of ethanol and then H20 is lost easily...... so in that case any proton donor (acid) must be a dehydrating agent no

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Ohhhh that kind of dehydration. Isn't sulphuric acid the catalyst? Lemme check.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no no no...its a strong dehydrating agent

thomaster (thomaster):

For a dehydrating agent to work... it must not contain water itself

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistrydemonstrations/a/acidsugardemo.htm The sulfuric acid removes water from the sugar in a highly exothermic reaction, releasing heat, steam, and sulfur oxide fumes. So yea I would agree with Thomaster.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so anything that doesnt contain water acts as a dehydrating agent???

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

The acid catalysts normally used are either concentrated sulphuric acid or concentrated phosphoric(V) acid, H3PO4. http://www.chemguide.co.uk/organicprops/alcohols/dehydration.html And that's why I thought it's only a catalyst.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhk! ....but im really confused about why only Concentrated sulfuric acid is used

thomaster (thomaster):

you wouldn't use a wet towel to dry your hands right? it doesn't work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha....i got that part!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But still ,,, u could use a higly concentrated nitric acid no???? its not wet either

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Nitric acid is weak acid. I'd guess something weak is not good.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Or any other Conc acid could have been used as a dehydrating agent

OpenStudy (wolfe8):

Owait, is that acetic? I shouldn't be doing chemistry at 6 am lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@thomaster ,, i agree with ur logic about not containing water.....but i think that works out only with those ANHYDROUS dehydrating agents like anhy Al203 ,,P2O5 ,,,and all

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I heard somewhere that inorder to be an efficient dehydrating agent ,, it must not be a strong acid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and when H2SO4 is concentrated,, it loses most of its ACID properties....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is the answer to my question ....but still i cant figure out why " inorder to be an efficient dehydrating agent ,, it must not be a strong acid"

thomaster (thomaster):

maybe @Frostbite can give you a more "technical" answer :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

THanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok...again i got a partial answer...they said that the ACID Properties and other properties that sulfuric acid possesses like " Oxidizing propery"......interfere with the normal dehydration reaction ,producing side products.......ok got it ......but why not use any other random "NOT WET" reagent like nitric acid or something???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Frostbite please can u help me out?????

OpenStudy (frostbite):

I can't find any good reason why diluted won't work, except what is already said.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok..But why not the other random reagents?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

HNO3 or HCl 'look' equally good as acids just like sulfuric acids..

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