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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got the answer by guessing but need to learn the steps to get the answer. Can some one walk me through this please? A software designer is mapping the streets for a new racing game. All the streets are depicted as either perpendicular or parallel lines. The equation of the line passing through A and B is -7x+3y=-21.5. What is the equation of PQ? The answer is -1.5x-3.5y=-31.5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Welcome to the world of "LINES" binks :3 How can I help you? ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know the answer because I guessed but really i dont understand this

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes, so basically, what we have is a simple "find the equation of a line" problem, right? ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, we either get a line from knowing two points on the line, OR one point and the slope of the line. Catch me so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Are you sure? Okay, do you know what/how to get the slope of a line? ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's great :) Then what's the slope of the line through AB?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well if you sign up for mathway.com then you can get the solution and how they did the problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/3

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Such isn't the case :) Here, let me give you a subtle hint. When you have an equation \[\Large \color{red}Ax+\color{green}By= \color{blue}C\] Then the slope of the line is given by: \[\Large m = -\frac{\color{red}A}{\color{green}B}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

m=2/6 m=1/3

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

how do you get 2/6 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

B (9,6) C (3,4)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Oh, I see, a different formula, then? Okay, fine, but you used points B and C, when I asked for the line through A and B :) And that method's not going to help you... refer to the formula I posted....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dont know what numbers Im suppose to imput

OpenStudy (anonymous):

input :P

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's because you're not given the precise coordinates of points A and B. What you ARE given is the EQUATION of the line through A and B, and you know what, that's good enough if you just want to find the slope ^_^ PLEASE refer to the formula I posted :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

m=7/3

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's good. Now, we don't know squat about the slope of PQ yet, but we do know that PQ is perpendicular to AB. What does that say about the slope of PQ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not sure sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

m=-3/7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-3x/7

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Correct slope. Nicely done. So, you know the slope of line PQ, do we know of any POINT that lies on PQ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they intersect at 10.5

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

No... don't be too hasty... we just need a POINT on PQ. I believe one of them is marked out in your attached picture...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(7,6)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, good :) When you have a point (a,b) and a slope m, then the equation of the line is always given by... \[\Large y = \color{blue}m(x-\color{red}a)+\color{green}b\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so my point is (7,6) and my slope is m--3x/7 am I right so far

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

slope should be a pure number, no x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

typo oh ok so m=3x/7

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

no, you still have an x... m should not have x in it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=3/7*x+b

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes, but what's b? That's the second coordinate of your known point.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

no...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b= 6

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Good. Now plug in :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

But make sure to plug it in correctly, ok? \[\Large y = m(x-a)+b\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=3/7*7+6 now solve for y

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Wait what? Whoa there... just replace a and b first...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=3/7(x-7)+6

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, now simplify...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=3(x+7)/7

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Try again.... use the draw option, if you want.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=3x+21/7

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Oh okay then, multiply everything by 7, to get rid of that denominator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=3x+21

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Where's the 7? Surely y should have a 7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im sorry im getting more confused

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

7y = 3x + 21

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Because we should multiply BOTH sides of the equation by 7.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I keep getting the same thing y=3x/7 + 21/7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its ok thanks for trying im an idiot

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

no you're not -_- But it's just that we're trying to learn in an hour what normally takes days, so don't get frustrated, and try again :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

7(y)=3x/7 + 21/7 and then I divide

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

No, the 7's should disappear from the right-side.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=3x/7+3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@texaschic101 can you help me with the steps please?

OpenStudy (texaschic101):

notice that line AB is perpendicular to line PQ and the equation for line AB is -7x + 3y =-21.5. So we need to find the slope of this line by putting it in y = mx + b form, and m is the slope. -7x + 3y = - 21.5 -- add 7x to both sides 3y = 7x - 21.5 -- divide by 3 on both sides y = 7/3x - 21.5/3 the slope in this equation is 7/3. A perpendicular line will have a negative reciprocal slope. All that means is " flip " the slope and change the sign. So the negative reciprocal slope of 7/3 is -3/7 (see how I flipped the slope and changed the sign). Now I am going to use y = mx + b slope(m) = -3/7 (7,6) x = 7 and y = 6 now we sub and solve for b 6 = -3/7(7) + b 6 = -3 + b 6 + 3 = b 9 = b equation in slope intercept is : y = -3/7x + 9 but it appears you need it in standard form Ax + By = C y = -3/7x + 9 --- multiply the entire equation by 7 7y = -3x + 63 -- add 3x to both sides 3x + 7y = 63 I am getting something totally different...let me try something else y - y1 = m(x - x1) slope(m) = -3/7 (7,6) x1 = 7 and y1 = 6 y - 6 = -3/7(x - 7) y - 6 = -3/7x + 3 y = -3/7x + 3 + 6 y = -3/7x + 9 nope...I am gonna get the same answer and it is not your answer choice. I am sorry but I am not seeing my mistake. oh....quick question.....is the equation supposed to be -7x + 3y = -21.5 ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes -7x + 3y = -21.5 just doubled checked. Thats why I so confused. :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks for trying!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@whpalmer4

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

So, you know that the line passing through A and B is \(-7x+3y=-21.5\), and it is perpendicular to the line passing through P(7,6) and Q. First, let's find the slope of the line through A and B: \[m = \frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1} = \frac{7}3\](gotten by visual inspection of the graph: from A, we go right 3 and up 7 to get to B, with each square representing 0.5 units ) Now, our line from P to Q is perpendicular to this line, so it has a slope which is the negative reciprocal \((-1/m)\): \[m_{PQ} = -\frac{1}{\frac{7}3} = -\frac{3}{7}\] With our slope and a known point, we use the point-slope equation to find the equation of the line through PQ: \[y-y_0 = m(x-x_0)\]\[y-y_0 = -\frac{3}{7}(x-x_0)\] Our known point is P(7,6), so \[y-6 = -\frac{3}7(x-7)\]or\[7y-42=-3x+21\]\[7y+3x=63\]\[\frac{7}{2}y+\frac{3}{2}x=\frac{63}{2}\]\[3.5y+1.5x=31.5\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So then you divide by 2

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

@texaschic101 You were on the right track! Last thing you had was \[y = -\frac{3}{7}x + 9\]Multiply through by 7\[7y=-3x+63\]\[7y+3x=63\]Divide by 2\[3.5y+1.5x=31.5\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wow thanks you guys you are awesome. need to write these steps down. Phew!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah I see now I wasn't multiply right

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