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OpenStudy (anonymous):

help differentiating. please show all steps.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ d }{ dt }(\frac{ t }{ \sqrt{1+t^2} })\]

OpenStudy (isaiah.feynman):

Know the quotient rule?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ \sqrt{1+t^2}-t ( \frac{ t }{ \sqrt{1+t^2} }) }{ \sqrt{1+t^2}^2 }\]

OpenStudy (isaiah.feynman):

Simplify.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[=-\frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt{1+t^2}^3 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you show me?

OpenStudy (isaiah.feynman):

Okay, which one are we simplifying first or second?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the second is the answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

THus i need to change the big one into the small one... but I cannot see for the life of me how to simplify it down

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if i distribute that t in the 2nd term in the numerator... i get t^2. i see that i can use common denominators to get the negative 1 and then divide to get the sqrt 1+t^2 to the denominator.. but what about that t^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my wolfram trial expired and they wont show me anymore :)

OpenStudy (isaiah.feynman):

I don't even use wolfram. But I feel this might be a lil long.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is only a small part of the problem :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@agent0smith can you help me simplify this fraction?

OpenStudy (isaiah.feynman):

I can simplify it, like I said it could be lengthy!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok please do :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can also rewrite the t(t+t^2)^-1/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and use the product rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

trying that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sometimes i find that easier then quotient

OpenStudy (isaiah.feynman):

Would still give the same thing. Either way you gotta simplify! lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you deal with the t^2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

derivative is 2t, you'll have to use the chain rule.....so

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ -1 }{ 2}(1+t^2)^{1/2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all that times 2t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which is the derivative of the inside....the first part is the derivative of the outside

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{1+t^2}+ t(\frac{ t }{ \sqrt{1+t^2} })\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I will distribute the negative after.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this thing takes forever to type out formulas.....try this http://www.derivative-calculator.net/#expr=t%2F%28sqrt%281%2Bx%5E2%29%29&showsteps=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

shows it step by step of a way to solve it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

woo very nice. thanks! definately a hard problem... and this is only 1 small part of the problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i had a typo in there, i made it in terms of x, but forgot to change the top from t to x, so change it and recalculate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its a helpful tool to see how to solve those

OpenStudy (primeralph):

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