Need a quadratic equation with two real irrational solutions.
well, how about if you give us two real irrational solutions first?
I have to create the equation and find the solutions.
yes, but is simpler if you just get the solutions first, then make the equation :)
Oh can you give me an example of an irrational solution?
hmmm well.. do you know what an irrational number is?
One that doesn't stop?
well... not quite... because that's true for 1/3 yet is a fraction -> http://www.mathsisfun.com/irrational-numbers.html
So i could use 1/3 and 5/6?
well, 1/3 can be expressed as a RATION thus is a RATIONAL number
I need irrational ones that are still real numbers
so for the sake of simplicity let's say let us use .... root of two prime like \(\bf \sqrt{17}\qquad \sqrt{23}\)
How would i graph that?
hmmmm well... those are just the solutions :) to find the original equation, you'd just multiply them both
I'm not following what you mean by multiply them both. Multiply them by what? and how does that give me the equation?
\(\bf x=\sqrt{17}\implies (x-\sqrt{17})=0\\ \quad \\ x=\sqrt{23}\implies (x-\sqrt{23})=0\\ \quad \\ \quad \\ (x-\sqrt{23})(x-\sqrt{17})=\textit{original equation}\)
How would I graph that?
one can say that if you were to use the conjugates, will make it even simpler, say \(\bf x=\sqrt{17}\implies (x-\sqrt{17})=0\\ \quad \\ x=-\sqrt{17}\implies (x+\sqrt{17})=0\\ \quad \\ \quad \\ (x-\sqrt{23})(x+\sqrt{17})=\textit{original equation} \)
once you FOIL it, you'd get an equation you can graph
woops darn typos I meant \(\bf x=\sqrt{17}\implies (x-\sqrt{17})=0\\ \quad \\ x=-\sqrt{17}\implies (x+\sqrt{17})=0\\ \quad \\ \quad \\ (x-\sqrt{17})(x+\sqrt{17})=\textit{original equation}\)
so (x-17) and x=17 and 23?
jdoe0001 isn't here anymore x will equal sqroot (17)
so x=17 or x=\[\sqrt{17}\]
Why not try creating the original equation? (x−sq root(17) (x+sq root(17)=original equation can you multiply that ?
yeah (x-17)
No - you'd have to have an x² in there.
oh (\[x ^{2}\]-17)
jdoe0001 mentioned FOIL - do you know what that is?
yeah first outer inner last
So multiply this using FOIL (x−sq root(17) (x+sq root(17)
x2-17
That's close but instead of the 17, what should it be?
No wait I was wrong - that is it !!!!!!!!!!
\[(x-\sqrt{17})(x+\sqrt{17})\]
That's how you'd factor the equation to get the 2 values of x.
i need two solutions though thats only 1
look carefully , there are 2 solutions there
\[\sqrt{17} \sqrt{-17}?\]
That is right those are the 2 solutions
okay i need 1 more problem. Equation with no real solutions and two imaginary
Okay I'll see if I can come up with something.
x² + 2x + 4 =0 The problem with using that is that both answers are equal
Need two imaginary ones.
BOTH of those answers are imaginary. but the answers equal each other. Here's a good equation: 2x² +5x +32 THe 2 answers are: -1.25 plus 3.7997 i and -1.25 minus 3.7997 i
thank you
u r welcome - I guess that's it right?
yep cya
okay c ya
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