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OpenStudy (vshiroky):

Find the domain and range of the relation. Determine whether the relation is a function. {(1/6,8), (7,1/6), (-7,1/6), (1/6,-2)}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay what is most confusing to you , and what have you tried

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

I don't know how to do it. It's all new to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Since you have only points and no continuous function, then your domain is just the x-values, right? And the range only the y-values.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's not a function, it's just a set of points. A function must have one or more variables--a set of points has none.

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

How do I find the range?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the relation is not a function

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

right but what is the range of the relation?

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

@jdoe0001

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

Or how do you know if it's a function or not. I'm still unsure of how to figure that out.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The y-values are the range of the function. The x-values are the domain. In order for a relation to be a function it must include one or more variables are pass a vertical line test--a set of points does not meet this criteria.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and* rather

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

How do I find out if it passes the vertical line test?

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

Find the unique values of your x-coordinates, that's your domain Find the unique values of your y-coordinates, that's your range If for every x there is a unique y-value, then it is a function

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

I still don't get it but thanks

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

Let's take the domain first: {(1/6,8), (7,1/6), (-7,1/6), (1/6,-2)} What are all the x-coordinates for these sets of points?

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

I understand the domain and range now but I don't understand how to tell if it's a function

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

Ok, that's just as easy. let's look at each x-coordinate and make sure that there isn't another point with a DIFFERENT y-value. This ensures that the given relation is a function. Take 1/6. What are the possible values for y given this x-value?

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

8,1/6,1/6,-2

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

There are two points with 1/6 as the x-value: {(1/6,8),(1/6,-2)} What are the possible y-values here?

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

8,-2

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

That's right. So for x=1/6 y is either 8 or -2. This can NOT happen for functions. We expect to get a unique output for every x- that's the definition of a function. Make sense?

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

So what would make it a function? I don't know why I'm so confused lol

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

I function would be something like the set above, but WITHOUT the point (1/6,-2), because then we would have a set of points with unique y-values for every possible x-value.

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

hmm ok

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

For example, this is a function: {(1/6,8), (7,1/6), (-7,1/6)} Every x value has a unique y-value. So your original relation is NOT a function.

OpenStudy (vshiroky):

Ok thank you

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

You're Welcome. Functions can be confusing in their definition, but if you try to just think about what its saying, then it makes it a little easier. BTW, the equation of a circle x^2 + y^2 = 1 is NOT a function, because there are many points along x that give 2 y values: |dw:1393112420426:dw| This is where the horizontal test would immediately clue you that there are two values of y for a single value of x. Hope this helps. Good luck!

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

*Vertical line test (not horizontal)

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