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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help with two algebra questions please? What is the graph of the absolute value equation? y=|x| -9

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I'd start by graphing just y = |x|. Then, because of the " -9 " I'd translate the entire graph downward 9 units. That's it. Can you now choose the correct answer? Was there another problem you'd wanted to discuss?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer is 4

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Just a reminder: the shape of the absolute value function is like that of a " V " with vertex at (0,0).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer is 4 again

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I meant, "the shape OF THE GRAPH of the absolute value function ... "

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you both! I know I said two but one more?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

The graph of y = |x+4| looks like that of y = |x|, except that ... what? Can you finish this description?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Hope you won't mind, but I'd like for you to answer that question before we do #3.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its up by 4 units

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Beth, please hold that for a moment. nkaadi: Please justify your answer (immediately above).

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I'd like for nkaadi to justify HER answer. You and I can come back to that question after we've heard from her/him. Now regarding the newest question: y = |x+3|-4,

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Please start with the graph of y = |x|, as before. Which 2 changes would you make to this graph to obtain the graph of y = |x+3| - 4 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer is 2 not 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what should i verify math male

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just verified with x=0, and x=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no for the third question it is 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mathmale which graph should i verify

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am male my name is aadithya from india

OpenStudy (mathmale):

It'd make more sense for me, for Beth and perhaps for yourself if you'd please show your work (describe the steps you've taken) instead of saying "it's 2, it's 4, and so on. I asked you to explain how you decided, several minutes ago, that "its up by 4" in response to y = |x+4|.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

put x=0,you get y=4 easy

OpenStudy (mathmale):

aadithya: welcome to Open Study, and thank you for contributing. could you please try to justify your answer, above? I'll repeat the info I gave you if you wish. Beth:

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Beth: how would you graph y = |x+4|?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first y=modx then shift the graph upwards by 4 units

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Beth, I won't say more until we've heard from you. Your turn.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is your answer mathmale

OpenStudy (mathmale):

aadithya: Since it was Beth who initially posted questions here, I feel that she deserves first priority, and again invite her to answer. After she does, you and I, or you, Beth and I, could continue with your own questions and suggestions. I value your participation, but right here and now it's Beth's game.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Beth, I was asking you how you would graph y = |x+4|. Ignore the 3 for now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have to go now guys should prepare for exams cya all the best beth and mathmale take care

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Hope to see you back on OpenStudy again soon! Best to you, too. Bye! Beth?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Beth, sorry, but I have to counter that. If y ou start with y = |x|, you get a v-shaped graph with vertex at (0,0), right? if you then want to graph y = |x| + 3, you move the whole graph of y = |x| upward 3 units. y = |x+4| is quite different. Its y-intercept is 4, yes. But where is its vertex?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

And I'd like for you to describe what you do with the graph of y = |x| so that it becomes the graph of y = |x+4|. This is quite important. It's called "horizontal translation." What does that mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

math male are you there

OpenStudy (mathmale):

surely am. Please, aadithya, post your questions, one at a time, in the usual way. (Start a new problem, rather than adding a problem to a previous discussion.)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya about the graph question is my answer wrong

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Regarding y = |x| + 4: we just translate the graph of y = |x| upward 4 units. Regarding y = |x+4| = |x - (-4)| is quite a different situation. Please try again on this problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i think you are right

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Again I invite y ou to explain what you would do to the graph of y = |x| to end up with the graph of y = |x+4|.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep you are right i was wrong i just verifired the graph you in college??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for y=modx+4 the vertex is at (-4,0)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks a lot can you tell beth

OpenStudy (mathmale):

that's great. True. What I hoped you would say was, "to obtain the graph of y = |x+4| from the graph of y = |x|, we simply shift the whole graph of y = |x| four units to the left.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer to 3rd question is 2 i guess

OpenStudy (mathmale):

OK. Now, start with the graph of y = |x|. What do you have to do with it to obtain the graph of y = |x+4|-2?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Draw this new graph. Use the Draw utility (below).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

same thing shift the graph left by 4 and then down by 2

OpenStudy (mathmale):

that's exactly right. Congratulations!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the vertex is(-4,2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you live in india

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tell beth about the corrections thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

soryy its (-4,-2)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

No, but I'm quite interested in India. I live in Southern California, about three hours by car from Los Angeles. Where do you live?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in banglore india are you in college

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I was in college full-time for 5 years, part-time (graduate study) 4.5 years, and taught deaf students Math in New York State 43 years. I've just retired and now live in California.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

great i am a 12 grade student in india

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i respect you sir

OpenStudy (mathmale):

thank you, aadithya. I'm truly glad to be in touch with you and hope you'll post further problems here on Open Study as time goes by.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

love to visit usa one day sir and thanks

OpenStudy (mathmale):

And I'd love to visit India. All the best to you; hope we'll talk again. Take care! Bye for now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

see you again bye

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