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OpenStudy (anonymous):

why did they use → for intersection but ∧ for union? ∩F = {x | ∀A (A∈F → x∈A} ∪F = {x | ∃A (A∈F ∧ x∈A} I would think that ∪F = {x | ∃A (A∈F → x∈A}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what if both are defined using a same connective? would that change the meaning of the definitions? ∩F = {x | ∀A (A∈F → x∈A} ∪F = {x | ∃A (A∈F → x∈A} OR ∩F = {x | ∀A (A∈F ∧ x∈A} ∪F = {x | ∃A (A∈F ∧ x∈A}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well \(\ldots\to\ldots\) is just another way of saying \( \lnot \ldots \lor\ldots\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So it is distinct from \(\ldots\land\ldots\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are we talking about definitions of intersection and union?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What are we intersecting \(F\) with?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's the family of sets. So the union/intersection are among the elements of F, which are A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh are we doing \[ \bigcup F \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For the union, just because there exist a element A in F, does not necessarily mean x must be in A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's why -> can not be used

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ \bigcup F = \{x | \exists A (A\in F \to x\in A)\} \]This condition would always be true, and the set would contain all elements, even if they are not in a set in \(F\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ \bigcap F = \{x | \forall A (A\in F ∧ x\in A)\} \]This condition would always be false, because not all sets are in \(F\), one example being \(F\) itself.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So these definitions would return the universal set and the empty set respectively.

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