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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need help with this Calculus problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hmm are you allowed to make multiple guesses? Or just one try each? :U

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I came up with something and want to burn a guess and see if it's correct before I explain it lol.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have 3 more tries

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ok then I guess let's start with what we know. \[\Large\bf\sf \cot \theta\quad=\quad \frac{x}{5}\]Taking the derivative of this expression (with respect to time) will give us an idea of what's going on. It will make a d(theta)/dt show up, which is what we want. Do you remember your cotangent derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ -1 }{ (\sin(x)^2) }\]

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

\[ \frac{d}{dx} cot^{-1}(x) = \frac{-1}{1 + x^2}\]

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

so I would think by chain rule you should have: \[\frac{1}{5}*\frac{-1}{1+(\frac{x}{5})^2}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\bf\sf -\csc^2\theta\;\frac{d \theta}{dt}\quad=\quad \frac{1}{5}\cdot\frac{dx}{dt}\]Yes, 1/sin^2, good.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Chain rule is giving us derivative terms. Since our derivative was with respect to t, we get both a derivative term for theta AND x.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I'm assuming the speed of the plane as something to do with x... See how the plane is moving in the x direction? x get's smaller as the plane moves left. So I would think of the velocity as dx/dt = -365

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hopefully I'm interpreting that correctly.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Solve for d(theta)/dt. Use your triangle to plug in a value for your trig function part. (Find the hypotenuse using Pythagorean Theorem).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm still lost... Don't I just have to plug in the x for an 8 for the derivative of arccot(x/5)?

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

I got: \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = -\frac{5}{x^2 + 25}\frac{dx}{dt} \] \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = -\frac{5}{x^2 + 25}(-365) \] \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = \frac{1825}{x^2 + 25} \]

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

not 100% on it though, but you can give it a try.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nope, didn't work. Nice try though

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

damn... let me see if I can figure out what @zepdrix was doing

zepdrix (zepdrix):

That didn't work? Hmm that's the same thing I came up with :[

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got 20.506 for x = 8

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

when you simplify what zepdrix did, you get: \[ \frac{d\theta}{dt} = 73sin^2\theta\] now plugin you're equation for theta in terms of x maybe?

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

20.506 worked?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, 20.506 didn't work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so you mean, 73sin(8)^2?

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

no, i meant: \[ \frac{d\theta}{dt} = 73*sin^2(cot^{-1}(x/5))\] but guess what, that makes: \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = \frac{1825}{x^2 + 25}\] same as before.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

The fact that we were not TOLD what units x is measured in is really annoying. I'm assuming it's in miles, but maybe they meant x=5 kilometers and are playing a trick on us or something :(

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

maybe its the negative for velocity?

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

try switching the sign, its all I got left :P: \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = -\frac{1825}{x^2 + 25}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Here is a different version but with the correct answer if it helps

zepdrix (zepdrix):

oo nice something to compare :)

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

that shows the equation being correct: \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = \frac{5}{x^2 + 25} * 394\] \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = \frac{1970}{x^2 + 25}\] \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = \frac{1970}{8^2 + 25}\] \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = \frac{1970}{64 + 25}\] \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = \frac{1970}{89}\] \[\frac{d\theta}{dt} = 22.134831\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ya that's really strange. We did the problem correctly...

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh your problem says \(\Large\bf\sf 356\)...... we've been using \(\Large\bf\sf 365\)................. Could that have been the issue? :( Oh boy...

zepdrix (zepdrix):

That one's on me t.t ugh..

OpenStudy (polaris_s0i):

ah crap.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Did I input it wrong then?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yes, it's my fault though. I posted in my earlier comment, that the velocity should be dx/dt = -365. When in fact your problem page reads 356.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\bf\sf \frac{d \theta}{dt}\quad=\quad -\frac{5}{x^2+25}\cdot (-356)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

x=8 is giving me exactly 20.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It worked! Thank you guys so much. So who should I give the medal to? The answers were 20 and 35.6

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Double check my work though :U That is if you still have some guesses available.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

We share XD

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