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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Solve for x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4e^3x-1=5 Solve using natural logarithms

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know the answer is 0.41 but i dont understand how to get it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\ln 4e ^{3x-1}=\ln 5\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then \[\ln 4+3x-1=\ln 5\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[3x=\ln5-\ln4+1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then u divide everything on the other side by the 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah right :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got it! :D Thanks man!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

only question is, is how you got from the original equation to \[\ln 4e ^{3x-1}=5\]

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\( \bf 4e^{3x-1}=5\qquad \textit{log cancellation rule of }{\color{blue}{ log_aa^x=x}}\qquad thus \\ \quad \\ 4e^{3x-1}=5\implies log_{\color{red}{ e}}{\color{red}{ e}}^{3x-1}=log_{\color{red}{ e}}5\implies 3x-1=log_{\color{red}{ e}}5\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\large log_{{\color{red}{ whatever}}}{\color{red}{ whatever}}^x=x\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:| I'm so lost now.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

hehe

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

if you use a log, whose base MATCHES the value inside it the result will be the exponent of the value

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

if you have a VALUE of "e", then you'd use a log with base "e", or ln if you had say something like \(\bf 45^{x+3}=5\implies log_{{\color{red}{ 45}}}({\color{red}{ 45}}^{x+3)}=5\implies x+3=5\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so \[\log_{15} \] is \[\log_{^{15}} \] ?????

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

woops... darn typo \(\bf 45^{x+3}=5\implies log_{{\color{red}{ 45}}}({\color{red}{ 45}}^{x+3)}=log_{{\color{red}{ 45}}}5\implies x+3=log_{{\color{red}{ 45}}}5\) rather

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(log_{15}?\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

what do you mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nvm that lol, i think i get it. So if there is a whole number(45) before the equation then when you put in into log form then it(45) will be the base and the number after the base?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and vice versa?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if it was \[\log_{12} 12^{3x-1}\] then the exponential form would be 12\[^{3x-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[12^{3x-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is what i ment to write.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\large {\bf log_{\color{red}{ a}}{\color{blue}{ b}}=y\implies {\color{red}{ a}}^y={\color{blue}{ b}} \\ \quad \\ \quad \\ log_{12} 12^{3x-1}=\square \implies 12^{\color{red}{ \square}} =12^{{\color{red}{ 3x-1}}}}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im really confused now :| But i figured out what i was doing wrong in the first place. i divided ln(5/4) by 3, and then added 1 and that messed it up.

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\large{ \bf log_{\color{red}{ a}}{\color{blue}{ b}}=y\implies {\color{red}{ a}}^y={\color{blue}{ b}} \\ \quad \\ \quad \\ log_{{\color{red}{ 12}}} 12^{3x-1}=\square \implies {\color{red}{ 12}}^{\color{blue}{ \square}} =12^{{\color{blue}{ 3x-1}}} \\ \quad \\ \implies \square =3x-1\qquad thus\qquad log_{{\color{red}{ 12}}} 12^{3x-1}=3x-1}\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

recall that a log function returns an exponent, the exponent needed to raise the log base, to obtain the value in it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that formula helps a ton. I think i get it a little better now. i didnt realize what it was till now. so basicly if it was, \[\log_{4} 6=y\] then using the formula i would get \[4^{y}=6\]

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

yeap

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok i get it now! Thanks again :D

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