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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Seriously is there anybody on that could help me? I'm in dire need of some physics guidance right now

OpenStudy (rock_mit182):

first your question, then we will see. . .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

an iron horse shoe having a mass of 300g is heated up to 1200 degrees celcius in order to shape it to fit a horses hoof. if this is dropped into 8kg of water at a beginning tempature of 20 degrees celcius what will the final tempature of the water be

OpenStudy (rock_mit182):

mmm thermodynamics is not my strong area

OpenStudy (anonymous):

at this point anything will help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am here and I m ready to help thats that.. now lets begin.. i have two words for you. CALORIMETRY PRINCIPLE.. which is nothing but energy convservation!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah we did a lab in class using a calorimeter but im still completely baffled on the homework

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its a direct application of your lab.. i guess u didn't understand what you did then :P suppose the water and the shoe finally come to some temperature t then can u find how much energy is lost by the shoe? due to its temperature decrease from 1200 C to t degree C ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i set up an equation and i came out with an answer but im really not sure if the answer is right. could you do the problem and compare answers?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

show me working here.. wll ya? ll check it..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i have (8kg)(4.187)(1180)=300x and x is tempature i got 131.75

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no thats horribly wrong :O do this one step at a time first find out the energy lost by the shoe, due to its temperature decrease from 1200 degree C to t degree C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1180

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so how do i do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how can u get a number? when u donno what t, the final temperature is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when an objects temperature changes from t1 to t2.. what is the formula for heat energy lost or gained?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

idk my teacher did something with subtracting two temps... idk im completely lost

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it q=mCp(delta T)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The energy lost is always dependent on three things a) the temperature difference, b) Mass of the material, c) the time of material. thats exactly the formula!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now using that.. can u answer my question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont know whats what to plug in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

m = mass Cp = specific heat capacity of that material delta t = final temp minus initial temp!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mass of horse shoe or mass of water?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My question was how much energy the Shoe is losing right? so all those must be of the shoe right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah. and how do i know what the specific heat capacity of the shoe is? my teacher gets all of his out of a book

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its made up of iron, so look up for specific heat of iron

OpenStudy (anonymous):

.450 is what i found

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yup that is right!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i did the equation and got 159300 is that right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but its 0.45 KJ/k/kg = 0.45 times 1000 J/k/kg (cause remember Kilo = 1000) and no.. show me step by step what you do!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(300)(.45)(1200-20)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

First you have to convert everything to S.I meaning all masses must be in kilograms specific heat in J/K/kg so mass is given as 300 g.. you can't use directly and second of all, the final temperature is NOT 20.. do you think when u drop that horse shoe, the final temperature will be 20 degree celcius.. we have to calculate that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahhhhhhhh im so behind schedule lol if i could just get answers thatd be great lol sorry :( id love to learn it all but i dont have the time right now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i gotta go but thank you so much for your help!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.. you better do some reviewing first.. I will not give out the answer, just cause u have to finish your H.W. :P.. its called tough love :D

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