Locate between consecutive integers each real root of each equation...
\[x^3-x^2-5=0\]
@terenzreignz
Okay... here we go... looks like trouble... how were you taught to solve equations like this?
a bunch of different ways.... but I don't know which way to go.
Well first of all, let me just say that this has no rational roots...
So, I guess we're just supposed to find a pair of consecutive integers that contain a root between them.
I believe so...
Well, it's really simple, see. All you have to do is find a pair of consecutive integers, say, n and n+1 such that the signs of f(n) and f(n+1) are different.
Intermediate value theorem, as I recall.
haha sounds hard... so what would be my first step in this?
Well, try zero.
I'm really barely getting through these root sections of my book so bare with me lol... but okay do you want me to plug in 0?
First of all, let's define \[\Large f(\color{red}x) = \color{red}x^3 - \color{red}x^2 -5\] And we want $$\Large f(\color{red}x) = 0$$ So, try f(0) what do you get?
well I get \[x^3-x^2-5=0\]
since f(x)=0
if I plug in 0 for x, I get -5
Good. It's negative, right? Now, keep plugging in consecutive integers.. (1,2,3... etc) UNTIL it changes sign. Let me know when you're done.
okay hold on...
when I plugged in 3 I got 13
what about 2?
-1
Okay, so it changed sign from 2 to 3, right? Means there's a root between 2 and 3 ^_^
wow that's easier the I thought!!! thank you soooo much!
Hold on there...
There might be other roots. But from 3 onwards, that x^3 is going to be so big, it's going to make the -x^2 - 5 rather insignificant, right?
IE, it's going to be positive (and not change anymore) from x = 3 onwards. Understood?
hmm.. is there an example support this?
Well, try plugging in 4 onwards. Observe that the value just explodes upwards (IE, gets bigger and bigger) And if it gets bigger and bigger, it's not going to be zero, and we want it to be zero. The reason we're sure that there's a zero somewhere between 2 and 3 is because at x = 2, the function was negative, and at x = 3, the function was positive, so in going from negative to positive, the curve must have passed through 0 at some point.
what about between x=2 and x=4 , couldn't any number between x=2 and x=3 or over be the answer.
lol since there's a root between 2 and 3, then surely, there's a root between 2 and 4, and that's precisely the root between 2 and 3. haha didn't you see that nything between 2 and 3 is also between 2 and 4?
cause there is a zero between x=2 and x=4 right?
There is, and it's the same zero between 2 and 3. But remember you're asked for a pair of *consecutive* integers
ahhh now I get it! yes 2 and 3 are consecutive!
thanks for the help!
No problem. By the way, you really SHOULD try going from zero the left, this time (IE, -1, -2, -3) Just to verify that there will be no sign-change in that direction too ^_^
okay will do that. :D
Graph. Just so you can clearly see that there is only one root. https://www.google.co.uk/#q=x%5E3+-+x%5E2+-+5
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