help me! quick stats question X f 5.5 4 15.5 10 25.5 18 35.5 25 45.5 30 55.4 3 i need to find Q1, Q2, Q3, D7 and P30
whats D7 ?
deciles
i have my exam tomorrow please help!
@amistre64
deciles are divisions by 10 percentiles division by 100 quartiles division by 4 etc ... the process is the same in each case, just sub in the appropriate divider
\[1~k-cile=\frac{\#~elements}{k}\] \[n^{th}~k-cile=n*\frac{\#~elements}{k}\] and round or average as needed
for example:there are \(\sum f\) individual elements \[Q1=\frac{\sum f}{4})\]
Q1= 90+1/4 = 22.75th term which means i have to take the 22 and 23 term?
\[Q3=3*\frac{\sum f}{4}\]
22.75 rnds up to 23 if we had gotten 22.0000 then we would average the 22 and 23 elements
and thats Q1 = 90/4, rounded not 90+1/4 :)
90/10 = 1D 9*7 = 63 so you would average the 63,64 elements ... but if they are the same value then thats a rather pointless step :)
i have seen in many website the formula for Q as i* n+1/4
Qk = k*n/4
youd have to link the sites for me to see what you are trying to express :)
ok wait
i see, they are starting their count at n=0 or n=1 and are adjusting for it
now which formula should i follow?
1 2 3 4 5 6 lets take this for example: the median is equal to Q2 is 3.5 Q2 = 2*6/4 = 3 ... the average of 3+4 is 3.5
Q0 = 0*6/4 = 0 ... what is the 0th position? may be what they are trying to address
i don't get it. like even from that formula i could get 3.5
by their account: Q2 = the 2*7/4 ... out right so they seem to be combining the averaging step to a more concise form
they have to adjust when it is not an integer ... but im just used to the way i was taught it
the formula you use is the one your material gives you to work with. is the best advice i can give for that one
this problem may not make it so complicated ... since the like the 14th and 15th elements are the same value.
90/4 = Q1 = 22.xx, so the 23rd value elements 15 thru 32 are all the same value
no it is not just about one question. i mean which one should use generally?
Q2 = 2*90/4 = 45 5.5 4 4 15.5 10 14 25.5 18 32 35.5 25 57 .... 45 is in these 45.5 30 55.4 3
generally i use the one i posted to start with
D7 = 7*90/10 = 70 5.5 4 4 15.5 10 14 25.5 18 32 35.5 25 57 45.5 30 87 70 is in this set .... 55.4 3
P30 = 30*90/100 = 27 which is in the third grouping regardless of interpolation
yeah i got it. but i am still confused about quartile formula. it is used in so many other formulas as well that i am afraid my answer will go wrong
forget the formula and look at what is going on in the process. you are dividing the data set into Quart=4 parts and picking the 1,2,3,4 Q
how accurate you need to be is up to the person doing the grading and all sorts of interpolations can be generated to match the accuracy needed.
so either formula could be used?
yes, they are both expressing the same thing but differ on how accurate you want the outcome.
in this specific instance, the interpolation doesnt matter since some number between 25.5 and 25.5 is going to be 25.5
ok thank you so much and wish me luck for tomorrow's exam :)
good luck ;)
:)
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