How do I evaluate log927? Could someone be so kind as to explain how to do this?? I do not have these notes, and I am studying for a test.
@cayssaday do you know the basic formula for logarithm?
Unfortunately not :(
Ok, I will explain : Suppose you have \[a=\log_b c\] It implies \[b^a=c\] Suppose you have \[2=\log_{10} 100\] it implies \[10^2=100\] Do you follow?
Yes!
ok there are some properties of logarithm, you should remember these always \[\log_a b+\log_a c=\log_a {b\times c}\] I forgot to mention a is called the base, so if you have \[\log_2 4=> \text{2 is the base here}\] \[\log_2 {10} => \text{10 is the base here}\] do you follow?
Yes I do!
Wait but why is the base of the first one 2 and the second one 10? Shouldn't the second one be 2 as well?
Base can be anything, base should be greater than 0 but not 1 \[base>0 , base\ne 1\]
Oh okay cool! Makes sense!
ok, can you find the value of this? \[\log _2 8=?\]
I guess I do not quite understand ...
Say the value is x \[\log_2 8=x\] it implies \[8=2^x\] what will be the power of 2 which is equal to 8?
would it be 4? Oh gosh I am sorry I really am not good at math.
2x 2 x 2=?
6
try again? \[2\times 2 \times 2=?\]
8 lol
what power of 2 is 8?
ummm 3?
good, so \[\log_2 8=\text {3}\]
do you follow?
Yes I am sorry for the trouble thank you so much!!!
No problem, let's work on your problem \[\log _9{27}\] what's the base here?
9
ok, we will need to find a number which when raised to the power of 9 is 27 Do you have any idea?
Well.. 9 ^1 = 9 and 9 ^2 = 81.... But 9*3=27...
uh, no, 9 is raised to a number...
Here's a question: is 27 a power of 3?
Is it 1.5?
oops @whpalmer4 Cayssaday 9 x 9 x 9=729 not 27 Do you know the square of 27?
yes, it is !
@cayssaday how did you find that it's 1.5?
I was wondering the same thing :-)
the square root of 27 is 5.19 right?
What is the square of 27? \[27^2=?\]
yes, it is. \[\sqrt{27} = \sqrt{3*9} = 3*\sqrt{3} \approx 3*1.7320508 = 5.196...\]
(9)^x =(9)^(1/2) = 3
Godd Cayssaday, keep going
*good
Idk i just guessed sort of
your approach is correct. According to the log property of addition \[\log_9(27)=\log_9(3\times 9)=\log_93+\log_99\] I think you can validate your guess now, can't you?
\(5*5 + 2*5*0.2 + 0.2*0.2 = 25 + 2 +0.04 \approx 27\) if we approximate 5.196^2 by \((5+0.2)^2\) Well, if you know that \[\sqrt{9} = 3\]and\[3^3=27\]then you can go directly to \[(\sqrt{9})^3 = 27\]or\[((9)^{1/2})^3 = 27\]or\[9^{3/2} = 27\]
@jim_thompson5910 probably has an interesting technique up his sleeve as well..
Here's how you do it using the change of base formula and rule # 3 on this link http://www.purplemath.com/modules/logrules.htm \[\Large y = \log_{9}(27)\] \[\Large y = \frac{\log(27)}{\log(9)} \ ... \text{Using Change Of Base Formula}\] \[\Large y = \frac{\log(3^3)}{\log(3^2)}\] \[\Large y = \frac{3*\log(3)}{2*\log(3)} \ ... \text{Using Rule 3}\] \[\Large y = \frac{3*\cancel{\log(3)}}{2*\cancel{\log(3)}}\] \[\Large y = \frac{3}{2}\] \[\Large y = 1.5\] Side Note: the change of base formula is explained here http://www.purplemath.com/modules/logrules5.htm
There's really nothing more than knowing they're multiples of each other. I used basic math and got 1.5 .-.
@cayssaday Do you follow ?
Yes sorry I am taking so long to reply, I am taking notes. I do online school and there isn't really lessons or anything so It's really challenging. You guys are helping SOO much thank you!!!
Evaluate log25125 The answer is 1.5 right?
Yes, because \(\sqrt{25} = 25^{1/2} = 5\) and \(25^1 = 25\), so \(125 = 25*5\) and \(\log_{25} 125 = \log_{25} (25*5) = \log_{25} 25 + \log_{25} 5 = 1+1/2\) Just like before...
Yes yes awesome it is making sense :D
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