hi can someone help me see if these 2 series are convergent or divergent 1) 2^n ------ (n^n)-1 and 2) 1 ---- (1+1/2)(1+1/3)...(1+1/n)
\[\sum_{n=2}^{\inf} 2^n/(n^n -1 ) \]
\[\sum_{n=1}^{\inf} 1\div((1+1/2)(1+1/3)...(1+1/n)) \]
For the first series, you can try either the ratio or root test for convergence. The root test is more easy on the eyes, I think: \[\lim_{n\to\infty}\sqrt[n]{\left|\frac{2^n}{n^n-1}\right|}\] If this limit is less than 1, then the series is convergent. Alternatively, if you try the ratio test: \[\lim_{n\to\infty}\left|\frac{2^{n+1}}{(n+1)^{n+1}-1}\cdot\frac{n^n-1}{2^{n}}\right|\] Similarly, if the limit is less than 1, the series converges.
That makes sense
but for the first equation after you apply root n do you get \[2\div(n-1) ?\]
Because i did it that way but i wasn't sure what root n equaled
Not exactly, you have to apply certain reasoning to simplify the limit computation: \[\lim_{n\to\infty}\left|\frac{2^n}{n^n-1}\right|^{1/n}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left|\frac{2^n}{n^n}\right|^{1/n}\] This is true because the \(-1\) in the denominator doesn't have that great an effect on the value of the denominator. Both \(n^n-1\) and \(n^n\) approach infinity at the same rate. Next, \[\lim_{n\to\infty}\left|\frac{2^n}{n^n}\right|^{1/n}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left|\frac{2}{n}\right|^{n/n}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{2}{n}\] Here you just apply some exponent properties. Obviously the limit is 0, which is less than 1, so the series converges.
Ohh so it's pretty simple
But for the second equation is the answer convergent because it's 1/(1+1/n))!? leading to 1/infinity ? Leasing to 0?
Hmm, I don't follow your reasnoing. The given series is not the same as \(\displaystyle\sum\frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{n}}\). Consider the first few terms of this series and the given one: \[\begin{align*}\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{\left(1+\dfrac{1}{2}\right)\left(1+\dfrac{1}{3}\right)\cdots\left(1+\dfrac{1}{n}\right)}&=\frac{1}{\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\right)}\\&~~~~+\frac{1}{\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\right)\left(1+\frac{1}{3}\right)}\\&~~~~+\frac{1}{\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\right)\left(1+\frac{1}{3}\right)\left(1+\frac{1}{4}\right)}+\cdots\\ &=\frac{1}{\frac{3}{2}}+\frac{1}{\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)\left(\frac{4}{3}\right)}+\frac{1}{\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)\left(\frac{4}{3}\right)\left(\frac{5}{4}\right)}+\cdots\\ &=\frac{2}{3}+\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)\left(\frac{3}{4}\right)+\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)\left(\frac{3}{4}\right)\left(\frac{4}{5}\right)+\cdots \end{align*}\] \[\begin{align*}\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{n}}&=\frac{1}{1+1}+\frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{2}}+\frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{3}}+\cdots\\ &=\frac{1}{2}+\frac{2}{3}+\frac{3}{4}+\cdots\end{align*}\] You should be able to see why they're not equal. Here's what I think you should do. Rewrite the series: \[\begin{align*}\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{\left(1+\dfrac{1}{2}\right)\left(1+\dfrac{1}{3}\right)\cdots\left(1+\dfrac{1}{n}\right)}&=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{\left(\dfrac{3}{2}\right)\left(\dfrac{4}{3}\right)\cdots\left(\dfrac{n+1}{n}\right)}\\ &=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\left(\dfrac{2}{3}\right)\left(\dfrac{3}{4}\right)\cdots\left(\dfrac{n}{n+1}\right)\end{align*}\] Now, apply the limit test for divergence; that is, given \(\sum a_n\), if \(\displaystyle\lim_{n\to\infty}a_n\not=0\), then the series diverges.
So in this case factorials aren't used at all ?
You could write it as a factorial product, sure: \[\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)\left(\frac{3}{4}\right)\cdots\left(\frac{n}{n+1}\right)=2\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)\left(\frac{3}{4}\right)\cdots\left(\frac{n}{n+1}\right)=2\frac{n!}{(n+1)!}\] Now you could easily apply the ratio test, if you'd like. You'll get the same result with either test.
Ok i see where i went wrong in my reasoning
Thanks a lot !! This was extremely helpful
You're welcome
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