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OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Need help understanding number 2.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

I don't understand the formula, what does each variable represent?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(a_1\) is the first number \(r\) is the common ratio (what you multiply one by to get the other) and \(n\) is the number of terms

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

The terms I'm left with after I figure out the common ratio?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets to it by example for the first ball

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

2.4/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a_1=3\\ r=\frac{2.4}{3}=.8\]

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

New divided by the old.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a_5=3\times .8^4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Wait I was never tolled to times the first number by the number of ratios.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a_1,a_2,a_3,a_4,a_5,a_6\\ a_1,a_1r,a_1r^2,a_1r^3,a_1r^4,a_1r^5\]

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

O_O that's how the flvs Algebra II lesson looks like? :O

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

So in the end will Ball 1 be 1.04? I got that from Dividing the old by the new. EX: 2.4/3, 1.9/2.4, 1.5/1.9, 1.2/1.5 then add them together, and divide by 4.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Yeah @tHe_FiZiCx99.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

It's easy it's just I tend to come to things that I over look or think way too hard about when it turns out to be incredibly simple; or they explained it badly.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

@satellite73 when you're ready.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Um to find the ratio you divide, why did you add and divide by 4?

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Well that's what happens when you ask the wrong people for help in school. ^^'

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

So just divide then times it by the top? Like how satellite73 showed?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

I'm familiar with this however they're asking for a common ratio between the 2, i sort of remember how to find it. Not too sure though, I can easily do the 2 and 3rd. I think i might know how to find it :/

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Alrighty, getting kind of confused due to the fact that I've been going about it some what wrong. What would Ball 1 end up being?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

The ratio for ball I?

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Yes.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

2.4 / 3 = 0.8 1.9 / 2.4 = 0.79 rounded to 0.8 1.9/1.5 = 0.789 rounded to 0.8 and so on... a_1 = the first term so 3 a_n = a_1 * r^n-1 a_n = 3 * 0.8^n-1

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Oh snap I'm getting it. ^_^ Alright, can I call you back to check if I'm doing correctly for Ball II?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

sure

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

common ratio, hm, i don't know how to answer that one :/

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

1.9/3= 0.63 round = 0.6 1.2/1.9= 0.63 round = 0.6 0.8/1.2= 0.66 round = 0.7 Would this have it's own a_n = a_1 * r^n-1 equation?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Each ball has it own equation.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Cool. 1 minute...

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Would it be a_n= 1.9 * 0.6^n-1?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

a_1 = the first term

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

So it will constantly be 3.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

a_n = 3 * 0.6^n-1

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

a_n = 3 * 0.6^n-1 ----------------- a_6 = 3 * 0.6^6-1 a_6 = 3 * 0.6^5 a_6 = 3 * 0.07776 a_6 = 0.23328 Though its asking for the fifth bounce, it says to use height 6... that should technically be: a_5 = 3 * 0.6^5-1 a_5 = 3 * 0.6^4 a_5 = 3 * 0.1296 a_5 = 0.3888

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

It's adding 1 to it for some reason, the equation is correct --lease I'm pretty sure it is, Find the 3rd height, that would be 0.6^2 = 0.36 * 3 = 1.08 = 1.1... in your table it says 1.2. It does that for everyone of them ._.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Why am I squaring 0.6 by two for the 3rd height?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

because its ^n-1 if its for the 5th term it would be from a_N to a_5 r^N-1 --> r^5-1 -> r^4

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Alright.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Get it?

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

So when trying to find the fifth bounce it would be to the fourth power?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

yes because its n-1

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

So why did they say height six when trying to find the fifth bounce? lol They added 1 instead of subtract.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

I'm not sure, I'm in algebra I and I've found so many typos in my lesson -- also go to flvs :/ I've actually asked them on here to see lol

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

lol

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Maybe they were referring to using 6 because 6-1 = 5 and they're looking for the successive bounce. Though using 6 would mean find the 6th bounce because of the nth term. That would be a_6

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

The typos get worse, I've seen many Algebra 2 questions on here from FLVS which couldn't have been answered because of that.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Lol ikr, I should get credit for reporting them, too mcuh work and stuff :/

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Yeeaah, I'm going to ignore 6.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Explain why you didn't use 6 so you get credit for trying if anything lol xD

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

They're trying to refer it as an example. Yeah for real. lol

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

I got that from the point they used "i.e"

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Yeah. Hold up, trying to solve this once and for all. :)

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

kk

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Ball 2's formula should look like this right? a_4 = 3 * 0.6^4-1

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

yes

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Wait it should be a_4 = 3 * 0.6^5-1 Then a_4 = 3 * 0.6^4

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Because we're solving for the fifth bounce.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Nope, you're trying to find the 4th bounce right?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

For the fifth bounce that would be a_5 = 3 * 0.6^5-1

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Fifth lol Doing question 2 Cool just caught myself on that.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

It's asking for EACH ball, find the fifth bounce for ball I, II and III

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

a_4 = 3 * 0.1296 0.1296 round 0.1?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

why're you doing a_4?

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

a_4 = 3 * 0.6^5-1 V 4

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Yes, why a_4 though?

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Crap a_5 = 3 * 0.6^5-1 V 5

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Ugh! a_5 = 3 * 0.6^5-1 V 4

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

There. o_0 Darn small keyboard.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

I'm solving for the fifth bounce, so minus one, left with four.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

yes, A_5 = 3 * 0.6^5-1 = a_5 = 3 * 0.6^4

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

My bad I forgot to change a_4 = to a_5 =

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

So I'm left with a_5 = 0.3?

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

3_5 = 0.3

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

0.4 rounded

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Since a is 3

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

X_X I am completely lost on what you're doing

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

No I was talking about the first a, "a_5 = 3 * 0.1296" ^

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

It's all good. I get what you're saying. ^_^

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

kk find the fifth bounce for all 3 balls

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Alright. ^w^

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Will take a while so sit back and relax. 'u'

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Lol i have to get off soon >.>

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

It's alright do your thing, you've done your part now it's up to me to do mine. ;) Thank you so much! Goodnight.

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

I'm doing my own assignment lol, I'll be on my other tab xD I'll be looking back every 15 ish minutes or so :p

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

K :)

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Ball 1: 3_5 = 3 * 0.8^5-1 3 * 0.8^4 3_5 = 3*0.4 3_5 = 1.2

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

What do I do with 3_5? Feels like I'm suppose to simplify it.

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

What do I when I get one different? Ball 3: 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

3_5 = 3 * 0.3^5-1 3*0.3^4 0.0081 3_5 = 0.02

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

3_5 ????

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

a_n = a_1 * r^n-1 3_5 = 3_1 * 0.3^5-1

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

3, where did it come from?

OpenStudy (the_fizicx99):

Ahhh, i get what you did, not you just use a_5

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Okay. :)

OpenStudy (mojutmnt):

Ball 1: a_5 = 3 * 0.8^5-1 3 * 0.8^4 a_5 = 3*0.4 a_5 = 1.2 Ball 2: a_5 = 0.4 Ball 3: 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 a_5 = 3 * 0.3^5-1 3*0.3^4 0.0081 a_5 = 0.02

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