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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Need help with the following: Evaluate exactly: log9(729) + 3log32(2) - log(100,000,000) + 2ln(e^12)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

what would you get from say \(\bf 9^3\quad ?\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

729

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how bout the second term would that become a 6?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well let us keep in mind that so \(\large \bf log_{\color{red}{ a}}{\color{blue}{ b}}=y\implies {\color{red}{ a}}^y={\color{blue}{ b}} \\ \quad \\ \quad \\ log_9(729) + 3log_{32}(2) - log(100,000,000) + 2ln(e^{12}) \\ \quad \\ \implies log_9(729) + 3log_{32}(2) - log_{10}(100,000,000) + 2log_e(e^{12}) \\ \quad \\ {\color{blue}{ 729\implies 9^3\qquad 32\implies 2^5\qquad 100000000\implies 10^8}}\qquad thus \\ \quad \\ log_9(9^3) + 3log_{2^5}(2) - log_{10}(10^8) + 2log_e(e^{12}) \\ \quad \\ log_9(9^3) + log_{2^5}(2^{\color{blue}{ 3}}) - log_{10}(10^8) + log_e(e^{12\cdot {\color{blue}{ 2}}}) \)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

the 1st, 3rd and last term are simple, if you notice -> \(\bf \Large log_{\color{red}{ a}}{\color{blue}{ b}}=y\implies {\color{red}{ a}}^y={\color{blue}{ b}}\) and change them to exponential notationn

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how bout the second and last one? i don't get how you got what those are

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

do you see what the 1st and 3rd are?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

so thus far we have \(\bf \Large { log_9(9^3) + log_{2^5}(2^{\color{blue}{ 3}}) - log_{10}(10^8) + log_e(e^{12\cdot {\color{blue}{ 2}}}) \\ \quad \\ log_9(9^3) + log_{2^5}(2^{3}) - log_{10}(10^8) + log_e(e^{24}) }\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok right

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

anything confusing yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the part where you made 3log32(2) log2^5(2^3) but i see what you did

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now we can use the laws of logs right?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

http://www.chilimath.com/algebra/advanced/log/images/rules%20of%20exponents.gif <--- notice 3rd rule listed there, thus

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well, lemme put them in exponential form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf log_9(9^3) + log_{2^5}(2^{3}) - log_{10}(10^8) + log_e(e^{24}) \\ \quad \\ log_{\color{red}{ 9}}(9^3)=\square \implies {\color{red}{ 9}}^\square =9^3\implies \square =3\qquad thus log_{\color{red}{ 9}}(9^3)=3 \\ \quad \\ {\large log_{{\color{red}{ 2^5}}}(2^3)} =\square \implies ({{\color{red}{ 2^5}}})^\square =2^3\implies {{\color{red}{ 2^{5\cdot \square }}}}=2^3\implies 5\cdot \square =3\) can you tell what \(\square\) is from there?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf log_9(9^3) + log_{2^5}(2^{3}) - log_{10}(10^8) + log_e(e^{24}) \\ \quad \\ log_{\color{red}{ 9}}(9^3)=\square \implies {\color{red}{ 9}}^\square =9^3\implies \square =3\qquad thus \quad log_{\color{red}{ 9}}(9^3)=3 \\ \quad \\ {\large log_{{\color{red}{ 2^5}}}(2^3)} =\square \implies ({{\color{red}{ 2^5}}})^\square =2^3\implies {{\color{red}{ 2^{5\cdot \square }}}}=2^3\implies 5\cdot \square =3\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

so... what do you think will be for \(\square\quad ?\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not sure what the box is

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

well. how about if you just solve fro \(\square\) ? :)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

if you don't like \(\square\) you can call it "x" if you want thus 5 * x = 3 = > 5x =3 solve for 'x"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so ive been staring at this and it helps to solve for x so far i think that the first term log9(9^3) = 3 if im not mistaken is that correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the second one is then 3/5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is the answer -22/5?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

hmmm dunno

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

have you gotten the 3rd and last term yet?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

and yes \(\bf {\large log_{{\color{red}{ 2^5}}}(2^3)} =\square \implies ({{\color{red}{ 2^5}}})^\square =2^3\implies {{\color{red}{ 2^{5\cdot \square }}}}=2^3\implies 5\cdot \square =3 \\ \quad \\ \large \square =\cfrac{3}{5}\qquad thus\qquad log_{{\color{red}{ 2^5}}}(2^3)=\cfrac{3}{5}\)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

recaalll that all we're doing is chainging to exponential notation, that is \(\Large \bf log_{\color{red}{ a}}{\color{blue}{ b}}=y\implies {\color{red}{ a}}^y={\color{blue}{ b}}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry i meant -12/5 and yeah i got all the terms 3 + (3/5) - 8 + 2 i got -12/5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you jdoe001 you really helped me out alot

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

close.... one sec let us get the 3rd and 4th term

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf log_9(9^3) + log_{2^5}(2^{3}) - log_{10}(10^8) + log_e(e^{24}) \\ \quad \\ log_{{\color{red}{ 10}}}(10^8)=\square \implies {{\color{red}{ 10}}}^\square =10^8\implies \square =8\qquad thus\quad log_{{\color{red}{ 10}}}(10^8)=8 \\ \quad \\ log_{\color{red}{ e}}(e^{24})=\square \implies {\color{red}{ e}}^\square =e^{24}\implies \square =24\qquad thus\quad log_{\color{red}{ e}}(e^{24})=24\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i didnt realize the e wasn't being raised to any powers and i got 2 when i solved for the last log

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

recall the coefficient in front of it -> \(\bf \large {log_9(9^3) + 3log_{2^5}(2) - log_{10}(10^8) + 2log_e(e^{12}) \\ \quad \\ log_9(9^3) + log_{2^5}(2^{\color{blue}{ 3}}) - log_{10}(10^8) + log_e(e^{12\cdot {\color{blue}{ 2}}}) }\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok 2nd and 4th are done the same way

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

ahemm I thought we did those already =)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

but yes, 2nd and 4th of them are done the same way recall -> http://www.chilimath.com/algebra/advanced/log/images/rules%20of%20exponents.gif rule 3 listed there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah we did let me do the whole thing with everything we just went over and ill post the result and i think i should get it right this time

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

ok

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf log_{\color{red}{ a}}{\color{blue}{ b}}=y\implies {\color{red}{ a}}^y={\color{blue}{ b}} \\ \quad \\ \quad \\ log_9(9^3) + log_{2^5}(2^{3}) - log_{10}(10^8) + log_e(e^{24}) \\ \quad \\ ------------------------------------\\ log_{\color{red}{ 9}}(9^3)=\square \implies {\color{red}{ 9}}^\square =9^3\implies \square =3\qquad thus \quad log_{\color{red}{ 9}}(9^3)=3 \\ \quad \\ ------------------------------------\\ {\large log_{{\color{red}{ 2^5}}}(2^3)} =\square \implies ({{\color{red}{ 2^5}}})^\square =2^3\implies {{\color{red}{ 2^{5\cdot \square }}}}=2^3\implies 5\cdot \square =3 \\ \quad \\ \large \square =\cfrac{3}{5}\qquad thus\qquad log_{{\color{red}{ 2^5}}}(2^3)=\cfrac{3}{5} \\ \quad \\ ------------------------------------\\ log_{{\color{red}{ 10}}}(10^8)=\square \implies {{\color{red}{ 10}}}^\square =10^8\implies \square =8\qquad thus\quad log_{{\color{red}{ 10}}}(10^8)=8 \\ \quad \\ ------------------------------------\\ log_{\color{red}{ e}}(e^{24})=\square \implies {\color{red}{ e}}^\square =e^{24}\implies \square =24\qquad thus\quad log_{\color{red}{ e}}(e^{24})=24\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer is 19.6

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