PCl3 can be produced from the reaction of P4 with Cl2. P4(s) + 6 Cl2(g) --> 4 PCl3(g). If 1.00 g P4 reacts with 1.00 g Cl2, which reactant is the limiting reactant? What mass of product may be produced?
Convert both of the masses of reactants to the amount of moles of their respective reactant. Then, use stoichiometry for both reactants to figure out how many moles of product will be created. Whichever reactant produces the least amount of moles of product will be the limiting reactant.
How do I use the stoichiometry to tell how much product they can produce? I know 1g of P =0.032moles and 1g of Cl = 0.028moles. That is about as far as I can get.
Use mole ratios. Take the amount of product you have a multiply it by the mole ratio of PCl3 to product.
So, (x mol P4)(4 mol PCl3/1 mol P4) = y mol of PCl3 from x mol P4 You get my drift?
And I'll repeat, whichever reactant that will potentially create the lowest amount of moles of product will be your limiting reactant.
Okay, so I get 4 moles of PCL3 for every 1 mole of P4?
and 20 moles of PCl3 for every one mole of Cl2?
No, you're supposed to use the amount of moles when doing stoichiometry. For P4: (0.032mol/g)*(4 mol of P)*(4 mol PCl3 / 1 mol P4)
Sorry if I'm not being that active, I can do better, but I'm getting sidetracked by basketball and I don't have a calculator right now.
So I get .512moles of PCl3 for every 0.032 moles of P4?
For Cl2, there are 4 moles of PCl3 for every 6 moles of Cl2, potentially.
No, you sorta messed up at the beginning. You were supposed to find the amount of moles of P4, not P, in 1 gram.
(amount of moles of P4)(4 mole PCl3 / 1 mol P4)
I'm getting the mole ratio from the balanced equation, using the amount of product that can be made to the amount of each reactant we have.
Oh so I'm doing math for no reason. because 1mol P4 yields 4mol PCl3 because of the equation.
Exactly. Now we need to know the actual amount of moles of P4 we need and apply the ratio. So, it'll be 1 g / (4*molar mass of P), since there are 4 P atoms in that reactant.
Which is 0.008mol?
Idk lol. Don't have a calc or periodic table, but I'll trust ya on that. So, what's the potential amount of PCl3 that is yielded by 0.008 mol of P4? (0.008 mol P4)(4 mol PCl3 / 1 mol P4) = 0.032 mol PCl3, I believe lol. Check that work. Do the exact same process for the Cl2 reactant.
For the Cl2, the mole ratio for the stoichiometry is (4 moles Cl3 / 6 mol Cl2)
That work is right, but I'm not sure how you came up with that equation. How do you know what to multiply and divide by?
I use the units, which are the mols in this case. That's why I'm including them. I want the moles of the reactant to cancel out so I'm left with the mols of the product.
This is lost in schools, and it sucks. Using units is a great way to figure out a problem.
Thank you very much for this lol. All my teacher does is read from a power point and won't go over the math involved. So let me walk myself through this math.
Ahh, I see.
1g of Cl2 converted to moles is 1mol/70.9g= 0.014mol
Yep, now do the stoichiometry, and compare it to the mole of PCl3 we would get from the P4.
Now I do what you did before which is. (0.014mol Cl2)(4 mol PCl3/6mol Cl2)
Yup yup,
okay I get 0.009mol PCl3
So Cl2 is the limiter
Absoutely. So, when this reaction plays out, ideally, we'll get only 0.009 mol of PCl3. All of the 1g of Cl2 will be used, but not all of the 1g of P4 will be used. However, the question just asks us what the mass of the product will be. So, multiply the amount of PCl3 by its molar mass and voila.
okay I got 1.24g PCl3. that is not one of my answers but I'm just going to pick the closest one lol
Lol ok. Probably did some wrong math somewhere, but it's k. The concept stays the same.
could you help me with Ph problems I have or do I need to post a new thing?
Sorry, I don't know about pH stuff. >.<
Might as well post a new question.
yeah. its only off by 0.03g
okay. thanks again man you are a lifesaver. lol
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