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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hello, i had an experiment during my chemistry class, mixing HCl,BaCl2, and unknown sample. it made a precipitation. I need to find: 1) mass of sulfate in unknown sample 2) % of sulfate in unknown sample 3) identity of unknown sample Possible Cations: Na, K, Cd, or NH4 possible equation with +1 cation: BaCl2+M2SO4 -> BaSO4 + 2MCl possible equation with +2 cation: BaCl2+ MSO4 -> BaSO4+ MCl2 Here are some data: mass of unknown sample: 0.329g mass of crucible: 10.990g mass of crucible +BaSO4 : 11.532 mass of BaSO4: 0.542g

OpenStudy (kewlgeek555):

Ooh, I am not that into chemistry yet. I know @Mashy is a great chemist or physicist. I forgot, but I think she can help. c;

OpenStudy (kewlgeek555):

Sorry I could not 100% answer your question. Welcome to OpenStudy. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@kewlgeek555 Thank you though :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a) i am a HE b) I m into physics.. not chemistry :P @kewlgeek555

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You have the mass of BaSO_4 and you know that for each barium molecule there is one sulfate molecule (in a 1:1 ratio)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So if you calculate the molecular mass (A_r) of BaSO_4 then you can calculate the number of moles of BaSO_4, since they're in 1:1 for every mole of BaSO_4 there is that same amount of Ba^2+ and that same amount again of SO4^2- Then just back calculate to find how much sulfate is in the unknown

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Silent_Sorrow Thank you for your help, so i got 0.00232 mol SO4. I'm stuck with how to find sulfate in the unknown

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So go mass(unkown) - mass(sulfate in unkown) = mass(cation in unknown) then go mass(cation in unknown)/amount(sulfate) which will give you a molar mass, then match it to one of the cations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you find mass of sulfate in unknown?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the amount (of moles) of sulfate for BaSO_4 is the same as in the unknown This makes the assumption that the unknown was the only possible source of sulfate ions.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Also when you find the molar mass for the unknown cation I just mentioned, if none of them have that molar mass, try dividing the calculated one by two which will give you the molar mass for a 1+ cation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so i got 0.106g of mass of cation in unknown. and like you mentioned, 0.106g (mass of cation) / 0.00232mol (moles of sulfate) = 45.699 which does not match with any of it. so i divide that by 2 gives me 22.845 which is close to Na.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Silent_Sorrow Am i on right track?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yup, that's the exact answer I got!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Silent_Sorrow jesus christ you're my live savior !!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously!!! this report was due tmrw and i was very close to give up but you saved me and my grade !!! Thank you so much :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

life*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You're most welcome, I remember doing that experiment at school :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Silent_Sorrow :D hopefully see you around when im lost again hehe you're the best!

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