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OpenStudy (anonymous):

dy/dx = (y+1)(1-x)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

where are u stuck at ?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

First question? \(\Large\bf \color{#008353 }{\text{Welcome to OpenStudy! :)}}\)

OpenStudy (kainui):

This looks separable. Get the y's and x's all on separate sides.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so would it be dy/( y+1)= dx( 1-x) ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and take the integral ?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Mmmmm yah that seems like a good idea.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but then what would be the integral of dy/y+1?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ooo try to get comfortable with this type of form, it shows up a lot. Remember the derivative of something like:\[\Large\sf \ln(y+1)\]or no? Bahhhh I kinda spilled the beans there -_-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/y+1?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yes.\[\Large\sf \frac{d}{dy}\ln(1+y)=\frac{1}{1+y}\] Which implies,\[\Large\sf \int\limits \frac{1}{1+y}\;dy=\ln(1+y)\]right?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I guess we should be a little more careful with the domain and say,\[\Large\sf =\ln|1+y|\]But that's not really anything to worry about in this problem I guess.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ln(1+y)=x-( x^2/2)?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

ln(1+y)=x-(x^2/2)+c Yah looks good so far. Understand what to do next in order to solve for y?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

make it to the exponent of e right?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

yes, good.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would be 1 + y = e^x-(x^2/2)?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Don't forget your constant of integration! :O

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\sf 1+y=e^{x-\frac{1}{2}x^2+c}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from then on, how would i solve for y?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

From here, use rules of exponents to split up the c from the other important pieces,\[\Large\sf 1+y=e^{x-\frac{1}{2}x^2}\cdot e^{c}\]e^c is just a constant so let's call it something else like A,\[\Large\sf 1+y=Ae^{x-\frac{1}{2}x^2}\]If we're not given initial data, I guess we need to make a note that our A > 0. (Because the exponential can't be zero or negative). Then just subtract 1 from each side to finish it up.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y = e^x-1/2xx^2*e^c-1?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yes, good.\[\Large\sf y=Ae^{x-\frac{1}{2}x^2}-1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what happendto e^c?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

We have a constant e raised to a constant c. It's easier to carry around if we simplify the constant. So I was calling it A. e^c = A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I still have to solve for C using f(x) =1, so how would i do that? sorry, I am just really confuse

zepdrix (zepdrix):

f(x)=1? That's not quite enough information. f of what = 1? What is the x value?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f(0)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So we've found the general solution,\[\Large\sf y(x)=Ae^{(x-\frac{1}{2}x^2)}-1\]With initial conditions of,\[\Large\sf y(0)=1\]When x=0, y=1. We'll plug this information in to solve for A,\[\Large\sf 1=Ae^{(0-\frac{1}{2}0^2)}-1\]Understand how I plugged that in? zeros for the x's, 1 for the y.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea i already ot that far

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just don't know how to go from there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

add 1 to both side then divide?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Simplify the exponential part first, e^0 = 1

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So that makes things a lot easier to work with,\[\Large\sf 1=Ae^{0}-1\]\[\Large\sf 1=A-1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

C = 2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I really appreciate it

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\sf y(x)=2e^{(x-\frac{1}{2}x^2)}-1\]Yay good job \c:/

zepdrix (zepdrix):

np

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:))

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