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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Eigenvalues and eigenvectors problem?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is the answer key, but I am having problems understanding it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How can you immediately tell that the eigenvalues are 1,2,3 without having to calculate det(A-xI)?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Look... linear algebra isn't my cup of tea, but just because it's unreasonably hard for me doesn't mean it has to be for you too... Yes, I can tell the eigenvalues near-instantly, because it's a(n upper) triangular matrix, and the determinant of an upper triangular matrix is just the product of the diagonal entries... Just you try calculating that determinant... but let me demonstrate anyway ^_^ \[\Large \left[\begin{matrix}1&4&-16\\0&2&3\\0&0&3\end{matrix}\right]-\left[\begin{matrix}x&0&0\\0&x&0\\0&0&x\end{matrix}\right]\] Let's subtract...

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

We get: \[\Large \left[\begin{matrix}1-x&4&-16\\0&2-x &3\\0&0&3-x\end{matrix}\right]\] And the determinant of this matrix is \[\Large (1-x)(2-x)(3-x)\] Setting this to be equal to zero (to find the roots, and therefore the eigenvalues), can you now see why it's relatively straightforward, why the eigenvalues are 1,2,and 3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh my gosh, thanks so much! I get it, thanks! However, I don't get the next part about eigenvectors. When I try calculating the eigenvector based on the eigenvalue 1, I somehow do not end up with the same answer as the answer key. Besides, the answer key seems to use a method I do not recognise involving i, j, k unit vectors?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I do not recognise it neither. Want to show me how you got your eigenvectors?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I take it you tried this: \[\Large \left[\begin{matrix}1&4&-16\\0&2&3\\0&0&3\end{matrix}\right]\left[\begin{matrix}a\\b\\c\end{matrix}\right]=\left[\begin{matrix}a\\b\\c\end{matrix}\right]\] And then just solved the system?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, I got it, thanks! It turns out I made an arithmetic error. However, for the eigenvalue 2, I can't seem to get why the 'b' value is 1?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Let's try... \[\Large \left[\begin{matrix}1&4&-16\\0&2&3\\0&0&3\end{matrix}\right]\left[\begin{matrix}a\\b\\c\end{matrix}\right]=\left[\begin{matrix}2a\\2b\\2c\end{matrix}\right]\] This is it, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, so the equations would be: a+4b-16c = 2a ---> a-4b+16c = 0 2b+3c = 2b ---> 3c = 0 3c = 2c That would mean c = 0, and then how can I get the b?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Magic. LOL Let me see... how do I put this...

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, from the second equation, that is... 2b + 3c = 2b It doesn't seem very helpful, yes? All it tells you is that b = b. Right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, doesn't that mean all values of b will satisfy the equation?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Not quite. What about the first equation? a + 4b - 16c = 2a c = 0, so a + 4b = 2a Or in other words... a = 4b Catch me so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hmm, so why can't b be 0? That would mean a = 0, too and \[\left[\begin{matrix}0 \\ 0 \\ 0\end{matrix}\right]\] would be an eigenvector? I'm confused....

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Zero vectors are never eigenvectors, *dear* (LOL, can I call you something more appropriate, like your nickname, perhaps?) Because... any matrix times the zero vector always gives the zero vector, it's kind of a freak-case, really :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohhh, okay I get it! Thanks so much, you're a savior! Hmm, what about the A^n part? Does this have anything to do at all with diagonalisation?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Hang on, do you understand why b = 1 now?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Any scalar multiple of an eigenvector is also an eigenvector, right? So it's almost like b can take any value, and it can, but the side-effect is that a must ALWAYS be four times the value of b.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Oh, and I'm kind of at my limit when it comes to diagonalizable matrices and stuff... better get a professional for that :D (sorry T.T)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, thanks a lot! That really helped me!

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

No problem. Sorry I couldn't be of more help... but look around, the expert's probably just around the corner ^_^.

OpenStudy (phi):

*** Hmm, what about the A^n part? Does this have anything to do at all with diagonalisation? *** the diagonalization is \[A= PDP ^{-1}\] where P is the matrix whose columns are the eigenvectors and D is a diagonal matrix whose entries have the corresponding eigenvalues

OpenStudy (phi):

notice that \[ A^2= A\cdot A = \\= PD(P ^{-1}P)DP ^{-1}\\= PDIDP ^{-1} = PDDP ^{-1} \\= PD^2P^{-1}\]

OpenStudy (phi):

or in general \[ A^n = PD^nP^{-1} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks so much! I get it now!

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