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OpenStudy (anonymous):
DIff Eq. initial value problem.
dy/dt = -y + 5 y(o) = yo
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
So dt/dy = 1/(-y+5)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Why flip it like that?
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
So you can now integrate lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I dont see hw that helps..sorry I dont understand.
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Integrate 1/(-y+5) lol
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
dy of course
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so - ln(-y + 5)
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Yep
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
So t=-ln(-y+5)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Is that because we were actually evaluating dy/(-y + 5) = dt. then integrated each side so t = -ln(-y+5)
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Yep you can say that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay so t = -ln(-y+5)....
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
+C
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So I need to get this in terms of y?
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Yep
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
But you find the constant first I think?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how does e^(-ln(-y+5) simplify?
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
\[\Large e^{-\ln(-y+5)}=\frac1{-y+5}\]
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
okay I shouldn't have skipped so many steps
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
\[\Large e^{-\ln(-y+5)}=\left[e^{\ln(-y+5)}\right]^{-1}=(-y+5)^{-1}=\frac1{-y+5}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ahhh I always wondered how that worked out so nicely like that.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
c wont be part of e's power?
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
It would be better to find the value of C before simplifying all that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
How would I do that?
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
That's where the initial value is useful
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Substitute the initial value
OpenStudy (anonymous):
for c?
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Well I actually don't know what's y(o)=yo
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Y(0) = Y naught or however it's spelled (;
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
What's Y0?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Means you plug zero into the function y
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
but what's y0?
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
What you just said was y(0)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
it is y naught aka the inital y value.
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Uh...
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
What's the initial value?
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Okay I get it
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
So plug that in now
OpenStudy (anonymous):
as in instead of having a integer as the initial value we have a variable name for that integer.
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OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
t=0 and y=y0